Re: [ga] chaos and confusion on this mailing list

["Simon Schuster" <significants@xxxxxxxxx>]

No, just a probably illegal pen-name :) luckily I sell my books
on-the-cheap under my trenchcoat.

I found it about a year ago, and I think my interest must have
sprouted out of my starting to study modern hebrew, and thinking up a
couple TLDs I would really like instead of קום and ורג and נט or
however they'd do com, net, and org respectively. I believe that they
are flattened, and 1. I would like there to be international TLDs, and
2. I would like the TLDs to be culturally/linguistically significants.
for instance, the one idea I can remember coming up for hebrew TLD is
שלי which is the conjugated preposition "of", in the me form... so
basically blahblah.mine :)

just a little bit of a big question. :) but, I think the unicode issue
is Severe, and requires address, even though I believe it to be an
issue beyond our scope. I think it's an issue of "globalization" which
has required address for awhile, and is coming to a head in this
specific realm. So congratulations and good luck to all involved here,
because this is the happenstance tip of the iceberg. Keep good ethics
and a positive mindset.

That's really my only stance, and I stand by it. I believe that if
there are international TLDs, that every language/culture should
decide their own TLDs, rather than transliterating the completely
useless net/com/org.

On 10/3/07, Sotiris Sotiropoulos <sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Simon!  Any relation to the publishing company?  How did you hear about
> the GA mailing list and what important insights do you have to share with
> us regarding the technical and policy issues (and their ramifications)
> that relate to the creation, administration, registration, maintenance,
> integrity, stability, security and proliferation of the DNS and IP
> addressing systems that our global economy now relies upon in the Age of
> Internet?
>
> And oh, if you haven't been on this list before... ;) Welcome!  We're
> eagerly awaiting your input on the issues as summarized above!
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> Chair
>
>
> >
> > These are interesting and important points which by their passion
> > could be construed as reactionary or inflammatory.
> >
> > It's too bad that all of this has to be mucked up with interpersonal
> > agendas, on any/all fronts.
> >
> > Maybe what the GA needs is a lot of "new blood." and a format other
> > than a mailing list for public dissemination.
> >
> > On 10/3/07, Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Oct 3, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Debbie Garside wrote:
> >>
> >> > Dear Andy
> >> >
> >> > If you want to have an outlet for your anger I will ask ICANN to
> >> > setup the
> >> > Angry Person WG but this is the GA and a number of people here are
> >> > actually
> >> > trying to be productive.
> >>
> >> That's the point. You can be as productive as you want, but what you
> >> produce has no standing on ANYTHING. If they want to, they can ignore
> >> everything you produce. And this has been done in the past.
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Forget the past and start thinking positive.
> >>
> >> If I had a dollar everytime some flag waver said that on this list....
> >>
> >> Like I said, 7 years down the track and we're still powerless.
> >>
> >> > Think about what you would do
> >> > if you were on the Board
> >>
> >> There's the other point, I, as a domain owner have NO CHANCE of being
> >> "on the board" or voting someone else ONTO the board to represent me.
> >>
> >> The whole ICANN structure has made us powerless BY DESIGN. Your games
> >> here are just that. They give people false hope.
> >>
> >> > and start making suggestions that can be
> >> > incorporated into GA consensus style documents that we can present
> >> > to the
> >> > GNSO and the Board.
> >>
> >> Consensus style documents were presented to the Board and the DNSO by
> >> domain owners 7 (8?) years ago.
> >>
> >> The IP constituency took great delight in blocking any chance of
> >> stakeholders getting any say in the matter. Pretending that we have
> >> any chance of representation while the current people are running
> >> ICANN is just a fantasy.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > United we stand, divided we fall... And nobody listens to people
> >> > bickering.
> >>
> >> They have listened to us when we weren't bickering, they never
> >> listened to us when we were united. This is all a farce to keep
> >> people busy and deflected. It's the ICANN equivalant of watching Fox
> >> News.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
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