Re: [ga] Re: 'stakeholders'

[Joop Teernstra <terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 01:05 p.m. 12/08/2003, J-F C. (Jefsey)  Morfin wrote:

> You may have noted that in Athen democracy meant only the vote of 500 
> family heads.

And the result was that a policy could  be debated before it was imposed 
(by a tyrannos).
If *all* inhabitants had been part of this process, democracy would have 
been aborted before it was born.
Herein, surely, lies a lesson for the ICANN-world.

> That we had to wait for the XXth century for the women to vote. Today 
> subsidiarity is eventually accepted - a very long fight of 150 years - and 
> the basis of the European governance but seemingly now endangered in many 
> many places. This evolution permits to now have myriads of democratic 
> processes we cannot cope with without drastic changes the post-democratic 
> society is undertaking, adapting. That change is probably as important 
> than the Athen management system.
>
> The old notions of democracy have enlarged a lot. Netocracy/polycracy what 
> ever one can name the current governance development of the world, 
> obsoletes the integrist (respect of the letter and slogans rather than of 
> the logic) visions of the democracy.

Please do not call our present society post-democratic.
The principles of democracy (vs. Fuehrerprinzip) are still intact.

Democracy stems from the will of the ruled to participate in the 
rule-making. Education enhances it. Democracy begins with its practice in 
small groups> hear all viewpoints and if they are dissenting> vote and let 
the majority viewpoint rule.
The tricks of  pseudo-democracy revolve around how to create "majorities" 
and "support" before any debate gets underway. How to disguise the de facto 
leadership  of a small oligocracy.

<snip>

> Fight the centralized ICANN approach of the network. But please do not 
> impose on us the cooperation of the Registrars - as democratic it may be, 
> even with a GA with a restored motion capacity. We are further than that: 
> we want the "netocratic" respect of each of the registrants.
> We want the @large to be listened to as the legitimate representatives of 
> the 700.000.000 members of the Global Internet Community. And we want that 
> representation organized in a way which will make sense to everyone, so it 
> will listened to.

The only way that makes sense to everyone (except to the ICANN Board) is 
one- registrant/person-one -vote.

This happened to be also the $450.000 conclusion of the ALSC.

-joop-