Re: [ga] Re: 'stakeholders'

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard and all former DNSO GA members or other interested parties,

   The interim ICANN Board and staff started the use of the term
"Consensus" via the IETF and the ISOC practice of the long
past as a key term for exactly what you are describing here Richard.
If  you care to review some old archives of this forum and the
ICANN "Comments" forum from 1998 thru early 2000, you can
assertion this code word as a means of limiting decision making
to just a choice few.

Richard Henderson wrote:

> And here in England, we had the Witan over 1200 years ago as a communal
> balance against the king; the sovereignty of the nation was last surrendered
> here at Berkhamsted Castle in 1066 - never again surrendered; we had the
> emergence of borough elections and medieval parliament in the reign of
> Edward I (1280's); and the English Civil War against autocracy in the
> 1640's; the subordination of monarch to the will of the people; the
> parliamentary system based on one person-one vote; and in 1940, Churchill
> and Britain at bay but not bowed, fighting back against the
> "post-democratic" vision of Hitler.
>
> Sadly, and pathetically, ICANN is a symptom of a "post-democratic" corporate
> malaise that infects the whole world, mouthing words like consensus, but
> really about power bestowed by the few.
>
> The At Large is fundamentally democratic. The right of people to determine
> for themselves the kind of future they want. The principle of respect for
> each individual, enshrined in one-person-one-vote. That is why we cannot be
> "post-democratic". To give way on that principle is to get carried off into
> the tunnels and corridors and layers and committees and mazes and haze that
> is ICANN - where consensus is a hoax and where the autocratic few decide, in
> partnership with privileged parties, what is right for everyone else.
>
> See how they expelled the representatives of the At Large from their
> Boardroom!
>
> "One person one vote" is the language of democracy and it should be the
> authority of the At Large. People all over the world may come to understand
> this struggle. It's their Internet.
>
> ...
>
> Yrs,
>
> Richard Henderson
> Join the At Large at Icann At Large!
> http://www.atlarge.org
> http://www.icannatlarge.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric Dierker <eric@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <jandl@xxxxxxxxx>; <karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:07 PM
> Subject: Re: 'stakeholders' was: Re: [ga] Re: ICANN before the US
>
> > Who decided the democratic approach was over?
> > who decides who is concerned?
> > Who decides who is competent?
> > Who decides who is representative?
> >
> > Bloodshed and four years were spent just to draft our declarations of
> > independence, France spilt far more blood and took about 14 years to
> declare
> > their republic.
> > eric
> >
> >
> > > Dear Leah,
> > snips>
> >  If we consider the governance of their consensus we are in a
> > > post-democratic approach where the concerned and competent have a
> > > natural  duty to defend, represent, support the interests of the whole
> > > community: we  started naming them the @large members of the internet
> > > governance.
> > >
> > and snips
> > >
> >
> >

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 131k members/stakeholders strong!)
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