Re: "stakeholders" was: Re: [ga] Re: ICANN before the US Senate...

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Karl and all former DNSO GA members,

 When the Constitution was written or envisioned the Internet
was not in existence.  Hence at that time it would hardly
have made sense to refer to the than would be citizens as
"Stakeholders".  In any event not all of the "People" at that
time were considered "People" in the context of the
constitution as the founding fathers envisioned it.

  It is also true that non-users are also "Stakeholders",
and should have a vote and a voice in any and all policies
that will, may or are effecting them with respect to the
internet.

  But Karl, haven't we had this discussion and debate before..???



Karl Auerbach wrote:

> On Sat, 9 Aug 2003, L. Gallegos wrote:
>
> > If we were to describe those whom we now call stakeholders as "users."
>
> I don't accept that those who not "use" the internet are not among those
> affected by the internet and thus not among the community of those who
> ought to have a voice in the creation of policies regarding the net.
>
> It does not matter whether one has an e-mail address or a web site or even
> knows how to use the net.  The net indirectly affects those who do not
> themselves use the net.  And the cumulation of those indirect effects is
> large - it ought not be disregarded.
>
> Simply because one is not a "user" isn't reason to exclude a person from
> the community of people who ought to have a say in the policies that guide
> how the net is run.
>
> So, it comes do to this: The atomic unit of internet interest is the
> individual human being.  Not a "user", not a "stakeholder"; simply a
> living, breathing person.
>
> The United States Constitution begins with the phrase "We the People..."
> not "We the Stakeholders..."
>
> And the United States Declaration of Independence begins "When in the
> course of human events..." not "When in the course of stakeholder
> events..."
>
> The great minds of the 18th century understood that the most basic
> building block of modern, stable, and just structures of government are
> individual people.
>
> When I look at ICANN in the historical context, I fear that it is a
> retrograde step - backwards from the principles of 1776 and 1789, away
> from democracy and towards oligarchy.
>
>                 --karl--

Regards,

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