RE: [ga] GA list and the GNSO council

["Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>]

It was indeed a polite no.
Maybe we have lost the habit of politeness?

Cheers,
Roberto


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
> Sent: 10 July 2007 03:10
> To: jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; ga
> Subject: RE: [ga] GA list and the GNSO council
> 
> Jeff,
> 
> I am not sure why you concluded that Avri did not answer your request:
> She said, and I repeat, "I also believe that if the council 
> is (to) get work done, it is critical that the council list 
> remain a council member's list with posting only by council, 
> liaisons and relevant staff."  I certainly do not mean to be 
> flip, but I understand that to be a 'no' with regard to your request.
> 
> Chuck Gomes
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:53 PM
> > To: ga
> > Subject: Re: [ga] GA list and the GNSO council
> > 
> > Avri and all,
> > 
> >   The GNSO council archives is already available to all to 
> read.  That 
> > was not the nature of my request.
> > So again, my request which given your response it seems you 
> missed or 
> > did not understand correctly was: "I would like to ask you 
> kindly as 
> > the new GNSO chair if it would be possible to open up posting by 
> > anyone to the GNSO council's eMail address, council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?"
> > 
> >   Transparency and openness is not a half way thing, it 
> either exists 
> > on a two way basis or it does not exist.  The bit is on or 
> it is off.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >From: Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Jul 9, 2007 11:36 AM
> > >To: ga <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Subject: Re: [ga] GA list and the GNSO council
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >While I think it is critical that the GNSO council list be 
> open for 
> > >reading by all, as well as meeting calls being recorded etc, 
> >  as part 
> > >of our effort to be transparent, I also believe that if the 
> > council is 
> > >get work done, it is critical that the council list remain 
> a council 
> > >member's list with posting only by council, liaisons and relevant 
> > >staff.
> > >
> > >I also beleive that this does not ignore the requirement for 
> > openness.  
> > >Not only is the GA list open to all, and followed by many in the 
> > >council, the board and ICANN staff, but there are open 
> consultations 
> > >that allow for input into the process and there is the recent 
> > >introduction of open GNSO Working Groups.  And while I am 
> > sure measures 
> > >for openness and transparency can be improved, and while I 
> > expect the 
> > >Board's Governance Committee Working Group on GNSO improvement to 
> > >suggest ways for further openness and transparency in their 
> > report, I 
> > >also believe we must find the proper balance between trying 
> > to get work 
> > >done in a timely manner (still a goal to be sure) and 
> > >listening/interacting to all voices on the issues.
> > >
> > >thanks
> > >a.
> > >
> > >
> > >On 9 jul 2007, at 03.58, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >
> > >...
> > >
> > >> In that regard,
> > >> I would like to ask you kindly as the new GNSO chair if it 
> > would be 
> > >> possible to open up posting by anyone to the GNSO 
> council's eMail 
> > >> address, council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx?
> > >> In the sprit of openness and transparency, this would be 
> > appropriate 
> > >> as well as in abiding by ICANN's bylaws.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you for your consideration in this request, and 
> > again thank you 
> > >> for chiming in.  >:)
> > >>
> > >
> > Regards,
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
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