Re: [ga] Re: 'stakeholders'

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Richard and all former DNSO GA members or other interested parties,

  Indeed Joop's comments and remarks regarding democracy are spot
on.  Yet they are incomplete, and if only he actually followed and practiced
them as he so freely states them.  But alas, as you well know Richard,
Joop does not do so.  This indeed in indicative or how the ICANN BOD
and staff also conduct themselves, which is an error in their ways as well
as their actions or lack there of...

Richard Henderson wrote:

> Joop's comments on democracy, and democratic process and dialogue, are right
> on target - a lesson for any organisation and an indictment of ICANN. My
> responses interspersed below...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joop Teernstra <terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > Please do not call our present society post-democratic.
> > The principles of democracy (vs. Fuehrerprinzip) are still intact.
>
> Exactly. And the people at the top can get booted out if they ignore the
> wishes of the people. If the ICANN Board had to face elections, they would
> start to understand that responsibility requires accountability, and that
> autocracy by and for a privileged few, against the will of the majority, is
> unacceptable. If the principles of democracy were introduced to ICANN, quite
> simply, the Board would have been swept away ages ago.
>
> >
> > The tricks of  pseudo-democracy revolve around ... how to disguise the de
> facto
> > leadership  of a small oligocracy.
>
> That is why "consensus" (itself an excellent ideal) is used and abused by
> ICANN... it's a catchphrase they can apply to block anything which impedes
> their policy... but it's a catchphrase that they readily abandon when that
> consensus runs against the oligarchy
>
> > >And we want that
> > >representation organized in a way which will make sense to everyone, so
> it
> > >will listened to.
> >
> > The only way that makes sense to everyone (except to the ICANN Board) is
> > one- registrant/person-one -vote.
> >
> > This happened to be also the $450.000 conclusion of the ALSC.
> >
> > -joop-
>
> Well spoken Joop! And ALSC was set up by ICANN. But because the oligarchy
> did not like the ALSC conclusion, they rejected it. It was too democratic.
> It would have threatened the powerbase of the oligarchy. Just like the
> elected representatives of the At Large threatened the powerbase of the
> oligarchy. So they were expelled from the Board.
>
> Richard H
>
> Join the At Large at Icann At Large!
> http://www.atlarge.org
> http://www.icannatlarge.org

Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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