RE: [ga] This list.....

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Joe wrote:
 
"And don't forget if you want to play dictator here you need to get your
pals at ICANN to deliver on their promises and provide us the necessary
facilities."
 
I think the great shame of this situation is that there are a lot of people
within this forum with huge amounts of knowledge that could contribute
greatly to the efforts of ICANN in providing workable solutions to the
everyday problems that any organization tasked with managing the internet in
terms of stability, interoperability and, most importantly, security will
undoubtedly face.  I would include you, Jeff and Eric in this group of
people.
 
You have the knowledge but the shame is that you choose to use it in a
destructive way.  This is why the GA will never work again.  Until people
like you decide to play with the home team there is no hope for the GA.
Unfortunately, what you don't realise, is that you are playing right into
ICANN's hands.  ICANN can quite rightly say that they have a General
Assembly that anyone may participate in.  The fact that no one does is down
to the likes of you, Jeff and Eric and maybe one or two more.  You make it
easy for ICANN to ignore the general public as nothing tangible ever comes
out of this forum.  
 
Why don't you try to put your knowledge to good use?



  _____  

From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Joe Baptista
Sent: 30 April 2010 16:08
To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] This list.....


I may be wrong Debbie. Maybe ICANN didn't give you a cookie. But I clearly
remember you being appointed or posted to some IDN working group. Am I
mistaken?

cheers
joe

p.s. when you get your doctorate - let me know and I'll add you to the
doctorQ. 

On Fri, Apr 30, 2010 at 4:05 AM, Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


Joe wrote:
 
"But you did. After you resigned as list monitor what committee were you
appointed to? You can answer that one for us."
 
I have not been appointed to any ICANN committees.  I am too busy with my
PhD.  Imagine that... I will be able to call myself Dr. Debbie... Gosh... I
really will fit in well here with all you other Doctors 
 
;-)
 
Debbie



  _____  

From: publicroot.info@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:publicroot.info@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Joe Baptista
Sent: 29 April 2010 13:23
To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 

Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] This list.....




On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:


Joe wrote:
 
"She must be a good negotiator - she has been well rewarded. "
 
How so?  As far as I know I have not received any rewards, inducements,
incentives or anything else you would like to accuse me of whilst I was List
Monitor.  I have not received any rewards either prior to or since - just in
case you were wondering :-)


But you did. After you resigned as list monitor what committee were you
appointed to? You can answer that one for us.
 


 
It would seem that people here miss my style of "dictatorship".  


If you feel thats the case - then run for chair. Any support you think you
have will be tabulated in the votes.

As for the above statement - I hope your not begging me again to be list
monitor. You made a farce of this list - it's rules and processes - and the
agreements we had between us plus chair

A ruling was made that the allegations by an icann staff member (Patrick I
think it was) were vexatious. You overruled our decision and made a farce of
it all. So you have lost my trust.

But you may very well be right. This place may need a dictatorship. Let's
vote.

Speak to your ICANN masters - just follow the leash from collar to hand -
tell them to give us our voting rights and provide the facilities to vote -
and you can offer yourself up as Chair.




I have to say, I don't read this list very often, and I don't miss it
either.


I bet you read it all the time ... late at night ... under the covers ...
while pacing yourself with chatroulette. Just kidding ;)

Seriously Debbie. I think the stunt you pulled as monitor and the small
morsel you got back for it was not worth the effort.

You made it very clear back then your intent was to kill the GA. It didn't
work. But as Chair you may be able to swing it.

kindest regards
joe baptista

 

 
Debbie
 


  _____  

From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Joe Baptista
Sent: 29 April 2010 03:25
To: ken stubbs
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] This list.....


Ken. What a pleasure to see you speak up. There must be a fire somewhere.

Your someone who is very close to ICANN. Tell them we need them to provide
their side of the bargain and give us our right to vote back. You want a
civil forum - we need an election.

Also I have lost complete faith with ICANN since the Debbie incident. She
must be a good negotiator - she has been well rewarded. I'm glad in fact
that is the case because she did a good job of showing everyone on the GA
what a dictatorship would be like under debbie. Thank God she resigned. Did
you engineer that bit of nonsense.

Anyway ... send it up the pipe. Time for an election.

regards
joe baptista


On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 4:22 PM, ken stubbs <kstubbs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Ken Stubbs wrote:

I have been a subscriber to this list for almost 12 years now and have
seen
the value diminsh significantly because of threads like this one..

Its sad to see a forum for discussion, (purportedly ICANN related),
degenerate
to this level.

Hopefully subscribers can still find some value in it, but, I am
rapidly losing hope that
this goal is attainable..



On 4/28/2010 2:26 PM, Thomas Baxter wrote:

>AHA
>- Here you can see more of joes lieing - Joe send an e-mail to this law
>>person and TELLS the law person that HE (joe) is thinking that some
>laws are
>>broke and impys this to the law person.
>
>>The law person being political, wants to say "YES, HUMMM HUMMM" and not
>>contredect some member of the public and then tell joe that if there is
>a criminal
>>that ok, to call the police.
>
>>Notice that the law person DID NOT SAY THAT THEY AGREED OR KNOWS ANY
>>INDEPENDENCE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS - ONLY THEY LISTEND TO JOES VERSION
>>AND RELYED ON THIS ONLY.
>
>>Do you all see the nature of this scams from Joe - do you see how he
>trys to
>>lie and fool all persons? He tries to make you think that the person
>WAS SAYING
>>THAT THERE IS A BROKE LAW AND CRIMINALS AND AGREES WITH JOE - THAT
>>IS **********NOT************** AT ALL WHAT THE POLITICIEN SAID -
>>READ THIS CAREFULY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>>BEWARE.
>
>
>BAX! Names Allentown








-- 
Joe Baptista

www.publicroot.org
PublicRoot Consortium
----------------------------------------------------------------
The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative &
Accountable to the Internet community @large.
----------------------------------------------------------------
 Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052)
    Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084

Personal: http://baptista.cynikal.net/







-- 
Joe Baptista

www.publicroot.org
PublicRoot Consortium
----------------------------------------------------------------
The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive, Representative &
Accountable to the Internet community @large.
----------------------------------------------------------------
 Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052)
    Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084

Personal: http://baptista.cynikal.net/