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Re: [ga] Re: GNSO and the GA. Kent Crispin controlled

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Re: GNSO and the GA. Kent Crispin controlled
  • From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 11:36:50 -0400

On 9/12/09, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Here is the bigger problem, of course there are changing dynamics as we
> speak, Avri believes in the theory that if you do absolutely nothing then
> you are absolutely not accountable.

That's the old civil service approach to doing nothing. It works in the
civil service - not sure iy works for a U.S. corporation contracted to the
DOC. There is liability here - doing absolutely nothing I think is
interpreted as negligence in the real world.

This is publicly eluded to by her here and elsewhere. The last year of the
> GNSO is proof positive. This is an OK philosophy and was generally one half
> of Gandhiji's philosophy. Problem is the other half requiring action when
> duty requires it. Hence passive aggressive sit ins. Avri and the GNSO
> council would do well to have someone start them off here:
> http://www.indiaparenting.com/intelligentchild/data/048.shtml
> Now we also know that there is one ICANN staffer that has used Debbie
> Garside in the past as a manner of censoring. He is an ex Olympic committee
> staffer and has associated through that with some very unsavory censorship
> and, shall we say "way right wing 1940s german style methodology".  More
> will be revealed. As the use of publications is just to similar.

Yup - I was there and published the evidence to the list. If my memory is
correct I believe the ICANN staffer was associated with a know NAZI by Jeff.
When we investigated we foundn Jeff's allegations to be true. The current
ICANN staffer and former Olympic committee staffer was indeed associated
with a known NAZI.

The complaint by the ICANN staffer to Debbie Garside under the circumstances
was frivolous and vexatious - we dismissed that in committee.

Then all the censorship started. Also lets not forget Debbie Garside has
been rewarded for her work. She's about to join the ICANN travel plan. It's
obvious everything that has happened to date is to destroy the General
Assembly - the last inclusive representative body at ICANN.


--- On *Fri, 9/11/09, Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
> From: Andy Gardner <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ga] Re: GNSO and the GA. Kent Crispin controlled
> To: "General Assembly of the DNSO" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ssene@xxxxxxxxxxxx,
> rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx, avri@xxxxxxx, Kimberly.Peretti@xxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 11:47 AM
> Ah, Kent. A spanner in the cogs of progress since way back in the days of
> the IDNO attempts to form a constituency for Registrants. He was
> well-rewarded for his work there, don't you think?
>  On Sep 11, 2009, at 7:50 AM, Hugh Dierker wrote:
>    Joe,
> Unless certain people in the GNSO are just outright not telling the truth.
> ICANN staff is directly responsible for denying public participation in the
> GA. Avri has repeatedly and publicly denied any interference. There is no
> reason to believe that Glen would have anything to do with such malfeasance.
> It just makes no sense the Secretariat would get involved.
> This fellow has repeatedly bragged, no that is too harsh, boasted is
> better, that he controls the GA.  That he is the one responsible, to no one,
> in running the only General Assembly list in ICANN.  And that he has shut it
> down.  Kent Crispin; http://www.icann.org/en/biog/crispin.htm
> This of course is in direct violations of the history and mandate found in
> the preamble here;
> http://www.geolang.com/draftGAListRules5.htm
> These are legal and scrutinzed by high priced lawyers and formally adopted
> by a contracting agent of the United States Government.
> Which is further explained here:
> http://gnso.icann.org/resolutions/  --- 2007 9 06 2
> Again the self determination of the GA is established in a legally binding
> document.
> (as you can see from this, after fancy lawyering and removal of language --
> the GNSO adoption, formally of the list rules took out the role of the GNSO
> Chair and effectively in a legal ICANN document made me {although yet to be
> elected} a god) Not fun.
> Avri I note in an election last December was elected until a new board is
> formed. Me -- I get no relief.

Joe Baptista

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