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Lets Talk about the Damage that Joe has Done to the INS (was Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched)

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  • Subject: Lets Talk about the Damage that Joe has Done to the INS (was Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched)
  • From: "John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 00:54:17 -0500

You have no such information regarding me, Mr. Baptista.

It is well known that you have a vendetta against Herman Xennt in the
Netherlands because of some argument you got into with him when you
went over there in 2005.

At that time, Herman was working on a project that had gotten the nation 
of Turkey as well as Tiscali to support the INS and this was the best chance
that we had of "going mainstream". 

Many people were excited about the prospects and there were people
investing time and money in the project, including Tiscali.

Then something rubbed Joe the wrong way and he decided to get on the
rooftop and scream bloody murder.

In the months that followed, he slandered hundreds of people, as he still does
today, and contacted many of the big players, making wild accusations about
the project. In that time, he accused people of  variously being "crooks",
"liars", "scam artists", "terrorists" and yes even "child molesters". 

The net result: He destroyed the best chance that the INS had to go mainstream
and ICANN was both laughing and sighing a breath of relief. "One of the kooks 
let
loose and saved our ass by his crazy behavior", they said. Many of us who 
were investing real money in our registry businesses over the better part of
a decade had our best chance ruined by this person.

Here are some facts to correct Joes lies:

FACT: Herman Xennt has never been convicted of wrongdoing regarding these
fantasy offenses that Joe claims were committed. At first, I stayed out of it,
withholding judgment on the veracity of the claims, but now, as every day passes
and more of Mr. Baptista's behavior continues to spew forth like a festering
sewer, I am convinced that, most likely, Xennt is innocent, though to be 
honest, 
I am still not sure. 

FACT: I have not now, nor have I ever worked for Xennt. I run G.PUBLIC-ROOT.COM 
and
have since before this little tiff started in 2005. I run it for the internet 
users, NOT for
Xennt, NOT for Baptista and NOT for the TLDA. It is irresponsible to shut off a 
critical
piece of internet backbone infrastructure that is still receiving many queries 
per day.  God
knows, it would be better for me to do so, to get this crazy dude off my back 
(fat chance 
of that), but I have values. I am an IT person and I live by the ethos of 
maximizing uptime
and not letting the users down, something Joe doesn't know or care about. In 
fact, several
years back, he interrupted internet service for all of Diebold Corporation in 
one of his
little power trips. (Long story - ask Joe about it).

FACT: I have never been charged with any crime related to PublicRoot or INAIC 
and have
not been involved in any scam. I have received NO MONIES from anyone related to 
INAIC 
and Public-Root.com. I have no contracts with Public-Root nor with INAIC to 
continue
service and can cut off G.PUBLIC-ROOT.COM any time I want. I choose to support
users, something Mr. Baptista has no clue how to do. He destroys things and I 
cannot find anything of value that he has ever created.

FACT: I am fully aware that LionMail will probably be a cost center and not a 
profit center. I
developed it and put it online to provide "content" for the INS. There are many 
others,
especially in the TLDA that care about working to develope our industry by 
volunteering
their time to develope institutions and infrastructure in the INS. The biggest 
single impediment
to our work has been Joe Baptista. He comes onto the Members mailing list and 
starts fights
with everyone, diverting attention from our work and nit-picking about 
nonsense. Thats why
I can't help but thinking that he is a plant from ICANN, or someone who 
supports ICANN - he
does so much destruction and seems to be at his worst when the INS is just 
about to have
a victory.  Just check out the TLDA Members list archive 
(http://tldainc.org/pipermail/members_tldainc.org/)
for the last few months and see what a mess he's made of things.
Joe Baptista is well known for his condescending, manipulative behavior and his
slanderous remarks (i.e. calling people "scam artists" and "criminals") - and 
no,
he does not say "in my opinion, they are criminals", he states it as fact, 
which is 
actionable slander, in the US and, I believe in Canada as well.

He has glommed on to the TLDA and will not let go. He makes the arrogant 
statement
that he has some right to act as a little dictator and order everyone around, 
when no 
such authority was ever given to him. He is not an officer of the organization, 
not on the Board
of Directors, yet he tries to act as if he is some sort of gift from god to the 
INS and that people
should all just listen to him. I think he is a control freak and a psychopath
who only escapes punishment because he has no assets to seize in a civil 
judgement.

Joe regularily telephones people, using a caller-id obfuscator, which is a 
federal
crime in the USA, and leaves harassing, insulting and threatening voicemails. I 
have several of these saved. 

Joe has insulted and demeaned anyone who doesn't completely agree with him 
or doesn't let him take complete control. He has beaten up poor Karl Peters, the
TLDA President, over and over again, calling him a "welfare bum" and "worthless"
(see the list archives above). Karl is a hard working family man who stuck his
neck out to keep the TLDA alive, and Joe has just run roughshod over him because
Karl refuses to kowtow to Joe's demands.

He has no authority to make any demands. His "silent majority" of TLD holders
that have "hired him to work for them" never seem to show up anywhere and 
its been years.

He is not a "Dr." - some people address him as such. As far as anyone can tell, 
he
has no formal education at all - at least not that anyone can tell.

Joe is the classic online harasser. There were just several news shows about 
this,
including a case where a girl was driven to suicide by a the mother of her 
rival who
stalked her online. Until there are criminal sanctions for the kind of abuse of 
the internet
that Baptista engages in on a daily basis, there isn't a whole lot that can be 
done except
to stand up to him.

Joe got started in his career of harassment, bullying and slander by bothering 
the brave
law enforcement officers near his residence in Peterborough, Ontario.

See these links for more information:

http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/defamation/liability.html"The issue of ISP 
liability has also arisen in Canada. For example,
where the original authors may be judgment proof, the plaintiff could
seek a remedy from an intermediary. For example, in Fantino v. Baptista,
an Ontario policeman obtained a modest default judgment for CDN$40,000
for damages in respect to some defamatory electronic messages. The
defendant, who claimed he had no assets and could afford to ignore the
judgment, reportedly told a newspaper reporter he was an "Internet god"
who was engaged in a war against the government. This type of defendant
may lead plaintiffs to sue "deep pocket" defendants such as large
ISPÕs. (64)"
and more 
herehttp://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/bryans-list/1995-October/000666.html
In these articles, it points out that:... "Baptista claims he is an "Internet 
god" and "at war with the 
Canadian government" since April, 1993."

and that the plantiffs lawyer in the case:
..."said he doubts Baptista is mentally unfit, despite his wild 
statements..

A LITTLE WEIRD: "He may be a little weird, but he's not crazy," he said.  
"I think he's just putting on a show."

Just trying to clear up the records, seeing as how the moderators don't care. 
Sincethey don't, I'll have to defend myself on my own.Hope you don't mind, 
Hugh, since as you say, there aren't any rules being enforced anymore.----- 
Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Baptista 
  To: John Palmer 
  Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 9:38 PM
  Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service 
-LionMail(tm) has been launched




  On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:04 PM, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

    Slander is a violaton of list rules. I have made a formal complaint to the 
list moderator, both about Mr. Baptista's messages but also

  Excellent.  I have taken the time to email the list monitor Debbie Garside 
and the Chair Hugh Dierker and am more then interested in defending against the 
formal complain.  Remember John it's not slander if its true.  And I say again 
- you are a scam artist and I will provide sufficient documentation to prove 
that - including phony corporations, police reports, court records, etc. etc. 
etc.
   
    about Mr. Williams slanderous domain remarks as well.

  Now that is nonsense.  Slanderous domain remarks?  Now thats a new area of 
law I'm not familiar with.

  cheers .. and the pleasure is all mine.
  joe baptista
   

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Joe Baptista 
      To: Jeffrey A. Williams 
      Cc: jp@xxxxxxxx ; abuse@xxxxxxxx ; DHS cert ; DHS security alert ; John 
Palmer ; hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx ; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; DHS info ; GAO sec Greg 
Wilshusen ; FTC IP marketplace comments ; FTC OIG's office ; ICANN SSAC ; ICANN 
SSAC Dave Piscitello ; Steve Crocker ; Paul Levins ; Cheryl Preston ; 2nd 
address Cheryl Langdon-Orr ; Avri Doria 
      Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:20 PM
      Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail 
Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched


      Well the HEX is one big legal scam and John is a major part of it.  An 
operative of sorts.  You can check his association out here.


       (false on both accounts)



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