Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dr. Joe and all,

  Thank you Dr. Joe for stepping up to the plate and for your candor.
I am sure that many if not most appreciated you doing so.

  It has also come to my attention unfortunately and sadly that
Mr. Palmers own Domain Name for his Email address is a
rather horrendous mess as well, see:
http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnslite.php?r=homepage&domain=american-webmasters.net

and
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=american-webmasters.net&token=258027474494427c2c65999134c3d019

As such, and quite frankly, I believe this Domain Name is abusive and
should
be taken down immediately, so that no other unwitting user will be
damaged as a innocent result of accessing same.  We are now blocking
any and all access to american-webmasters.net, and encouraging all
other affiliates to do so as well post haste so as to at least limit the
potential
damage and exposure.  Seems that ADNS is hosting this Domain Name
and it too should be reviewed closely.  See:
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=american-webmasters.net&server=&email=on&token=25001979237b43c226b5369338ee9019

also see:
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=adns.net&token=25706ac052c543d323b561923b678019

which indicates no NS records and as such makes it questionable that
such may be pointing to non authoritative name servers, problem records
are Nameserver 209.62.64.46 did not provide IPs for all NS records.
Nameserver 216.122.7.155 did not provide IPs for all NS records.
This of course opens up the very great possibility for many sorts of
IP originated attacks.  Not a good thing!

  This sort of thing is something ICANN could handle right away,
but my guess is, and I hope I am wrong, is that they will do nothing
what so ever and the user community at a minimum will remain
particularly exposed to this particular hazzard/danger.


Joe Baptista wrote:

> I think it's time for me to step in and defend the INS (inclusive name
> space) community before Mr. Palmer makes a dogs breakfast of it.
>
> I have asked the TLDA president in waiting, Mr. Gene Marsh to
> represent us - but he's a bit shy and I humbly take on the task.
>
> Please note that Mr. Palmer is not representative of the INS community
> nor is he our spokesperson.
>
> Mr. Palmer is an independent TLD operator associated with a scam over
> in Europe we all call the HEX - i.e. www.inaic.com and
> www.unifiedroot.com etc.  He has little to no support in the INS
> community and his recent travails into INS email systems is more scam
> then good intentions.
>
> I was responsible for putting a stop to the scam Mr. Palmer is
> involved with and according to Palmer he has lost a $100,000 USG
> because of my interventions.  Thats why he is always making
> allegations against me and other he feels I'm associated with.  Simple
> paranoia.  He even has claimed I'm an ICANN operative.  Imagine that.
> Me an ICANN operative.  Those of you now rolling on the floor laughing
> have every right to enjoy that giggle.
>
> In any case the INS as represented by the TLDA www.tldainc.org is an
> association of TLD operators and the INS root is essentially a root
> that sees all TLDs - this includes the chinese, arabic etc. TLDs and
> many more.
>
> kindest regards
> joe baptista
>
> p.s. please feel free to continue feeding the Palmer troll.  He will
> provide us with endless hours of amusement.  Or in the alternative you
> might consider having mercy and refuse to feed him saving him what
> dignity he has left.
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:54 AM, John
> Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>      What are you talking about? Some INS bashers post an
>      irrelevant link to an anal scanning tool that is pointed
>      tothe wrong domain and somehow that translates into me not
>      being "nice" to people? Dude, you and I are NOT in the same
>      dimension. I stand by what I said. The poster ( JW) is an
>      INS basher and a Baptista synchophant. That explains it all.
>
>           ----- Original Message -----
>           From: Hugh Dierker
>           To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer
>           Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:41 PM
>           Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now
>           has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been
>           launched
>
>
            John, One does not correct PR problems by pointing out how right 
they are. When you first put this out there, you did
            nothing to aid anyone but INS sophisticates in the use of your 
concept. I was going to ask you to step in down a notch
            and make it user friendly, but I knew your response. Then you use 
the name "tool" to describe what you think is a
            weakness. A weakness created by your lack of human compatability. 
Now what is the chance that a man as brilliant as you
            in your area,, is also brilliant in interpersonal relations. Hint-- 
Not likely.The genius often comes not in knowing ones
            capabilities, but in knowing ones incapacities.In securities and 
security they do not look at what is secure - but what
            is insecure. If you are this blind to this glaring problem with 
your initiative how can anyone rely on the reliability
            and security of your networks?

            --- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

                 From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                 Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real 
E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched
                 To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                 Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:47 PM
                  Hold on just a minute: Someone points dnsstuff.com at the 
WRONG domain (Not the one that has anything to do
                 with e-mail at all), and it comes upwith some lame complaints 
about some TTLs being outside of some range on
                 the WRONG domain, and then when I point thisout, you jump all 
over me for correcting the error that Jeff
                 Williams (a Baptista synchophant) makes? And that makes me 
stubborn/condescending how? I'll translate for you:
                 All of those involved in this thread (running the bogus 
dnsstuff query, and then jumping on me when Icorrect
                 your facts) are interested in seeing the INS fail.  OK, do I 
get to take a shot at you now? Lets see - Why are
                 you using a yahoo account? What are you trying to hide?Why 
should we trust you? Yahoo accounts (like GMAIL) are
                 used by spammers and 419 scammers... Sound unfair? How do you 
think you sound to me?

                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: Hugh Dierker
                      To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer
                      Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:42 PM
                      Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a 
real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been
                      launched


                      Dear John, I got this gal who lives right off 
Pennsylvania ave in DC. She kind of is in the thick of
                      things there. She has worked some sticky pol. campaigns. 
Bright as hell. Picked up a dual major BS in
                      poly sci and pr, got a fancy Masters in PR and 
international law or something, all of it Cum laudee
                      dah. Part of the Amer. Uni system there. She has a knack 
for making people like who they want to
                      hate. Stays in the background, loves a darkhorse. Point 
is. She don't need you but you need her. Your
                      style of public relations can only lead to an abysmal 
martyrdom.. I would not even wager on your
                      chance in hell of making your program work with your 
condescending, everyone else is an idiot
                      attitude. Any further advice will cost ya. But I reckon 
your too stubborn to ask for it.

                      --- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer 
<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

                           From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                           Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now 
has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm)
                           has been launched
                           To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                           Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 3:53 PM


                           Nope - Lion-Mail.net is configured exactly as its 
supposed to be. The ignorant
                           tool
                           at dnsstuff.com doesn't know what its talking about.

                           Of course there are no MX records for Lion-Mail.net 
- you aren't supposed
                           to send
                           mail TO the Lion-Mail.net domain - E-Mail addresses 
for Lion-Mail are in the
                           ..LION TLD. www.lion-mail.net is only a crutch 
portal for people who still
                           haven't configured their machines to use an INS 
resolver.

                           As for SPAM, LionMail has a zero tolerance for 
spammers and terminates accounts
                           of spammers
                           immediatly. We have outbound as well as inbound spam 
filters.

                           ----- Original Message -----
                           From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                           To: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer@xxxxxx>; "ICANN
                           Policy staff" <policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN SSAC"
                           <ssac@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN
                           SSAC Dave Piscitello" <dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxx>; 
"Steve
                           Crocker" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
                           Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann legal"
                           <jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; "Paul Levins"
                           <paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx>; "DHS info" 
<info@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
                           "FTC IP marketplace comments" 
<IPMarketPlace@xxxxxxx>;
                           "FTC OIG's office" <OIG@xxxxxxx>
                           Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:01 AM
                           Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now 
has a real E-Mail Service
                           -LionMail(tm) has been launched

                           >
                           > Stephane and all,
                           >
                           >  The problem with Gmail is that it is a spam 
perliforator
                           > extrodinair.  I suspect so is lion-mail.net.
                           > I do see that lion-mail.net is a DNS disaster. See:
                           >
                           
http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnslite.php?r=homepage&domain=lion-mail.net
                           >
                           > and
                           >
                           
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=lion-mail.net&token=12504cd81a964e092f54639635bf8019
                           >
                           >
                           >
                           > So yes Stephane, your point below is well taken!  
>:)
                           > Perhaps ICANN SSAC can find the initiative and 
garner
                           > the effort to see to it that lion-mail.net get's 
it's act
                           > together properly.  As usual for me, I am not 
holding
                           > my breath in anticipation of such.
                           >
                           > That said, now wouldn't it be nice if nic.fr would 
be
                           > so kind and considerate to the world if it would 
get
                           > it's act together?  A novel idea I'm sure, and 
perhaps
                           > even to hope so is a near miracle.  But I have 
faith.  >:)
                           > See:
                           >
                           
http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=nic.fr&token=13e078b6394942dd2a84269300c3f019
                           >
                           > Yet I do see that some progress has been made 
sense I last checked.
                           > However not quite there yet, eh?  >:)  Could it be 
that nic.fr is
                           > waiting
                           > for it's "Stimulus" check so as to be able to 
afford to make
                           the obvious
                           >
                           > minor corrections?  >:/
                           > Vive la France or let them eat cake?
                           >
                           > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
                           >
                           >> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 07:19:15PM -0500,
                           >>  John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote
                           >>  a message of 54 lines which said:
                           >>
                           >> > Check it out at http://lion-mail.net
                           >>
                           >> > LionMail is a low cost web based e-mail service
                           >>
                           >> Low-cost at $1/month while we have Gmail for free?
                           >>
                           >> But the best thing is the FAQ:
                           >>
                           >> > Most spammers use systems that do not know 
about the INS and
                           >> > therefore they will not be able to reach you.
                           >>
                           >> The dummy TLDs are not reachable therefore you 
will receive less
                           >> spam. That's something I never thought about :-)
                           >
                           > Regards,
                           >
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not with what is
                           > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore 
Roosevelt
                           >
                           > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; 
and the burden, B;
                           > liability depends upon whether B is less than L 
multiplied by
                           > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
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Regards,

Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 284k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln
"YES WE CAN!"  Barack ( Berry ) Obama

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
My Phone: 214-244-4827