Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched

[Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Well the HEX is one big legal scam and John is a major part of it.  An
operative of sorts.  You can check his association out here.

http://www.public-root.com/g-root.htm

But I want to make clear.  The Inclusive name space has nothing to do with
these scam artists.  Were cleaning house.  Something ICANN should consider
too is a good house cleaning.

God bless.
joe

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Jeffrey A. Williams
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Dr. Joe and all,
>
>  Thank you Dr. Joe for stepping up to the plate and for your candor.
> I am sure that many if not most appreciated you doing so.
>
>  It has also come to my attention unfortunately and sadly that
> Mr. Palmers own Domain Name for his Email address is a
> rather horrendous mess as well, see:
>
> http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnslite.php?r=homepage&domain=american-webmasters.net
>
> and
>
> http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=american-webmasters.net&token=258027474494427c2c65999134c3d019
>
> As such, and quite frankly, I believe this Domain Name is abusive and
> should
> be taken down immediately, so that no other unwitting user will be
> damaged as a innocent result of accessing same.  We are now blocking
> any and all access to american-webmasters.net, and encouraging all
> other affiliates to do so as well post haste so as to at least limit the
> potential
> damage and exposure.  Seems that ADNS is hosting this Domain Name
> and it too should be reviewed closely.  See:
>
> http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=american-webmasters.net&server=&email=on&token=25001979237b43c226b5369338ee9019
>
> also see:
>
> http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=adns.net&token=25706ac052c543d323b561923b678019
>
> which indicates no NS records and as such makes it questionable that
> such may be pointing to non authoritative name servers, problem records
> are Nameserver 209.62.64.46 did not provide IPs for all NS records.
> Nameserver 216.122.7.155 did not provide IPs for all NS records.
> This of course opens up the very great possibility for many sorts of
> IP originated attacks.  Not a good thing!
>
>  This sort of thing is something ICANN could handle right away,
> but my guess is, and I hope I am wrong, is that they will do nothing
> what so ever and the user community at a minimum will remain
> particularly exposed to this particular hazzard/danger.
>
>
> Joe Baptista wrote:
>
> > I think it's time for me to step in and defend the INS (inclusive name
> > space) community before Mr. Palmer makes a dogs breakfast of it.
> >
> > I have asked the TLDA president in waiting, Mr. Gene Marsh to
> > represent us - but he's a bit shy and I humbly take on the task.
> >
> > Please note that Mr. Palmer is not representative of the INS community
> > nor is he our spokesperson.
> >
> > Mr. Palmer is an independent TLD operator associated with a scam over
> > in Europe we all call the HEX - i.e. www.inaic.com and
> > www.unifiedroot.com etc.  He has little to no support in the INS
> > community and his recent travails into INS email systems is more scam
> > then good intentions.
> >
> > I was responsible for putting a stop to the scam Mr. Palmer is
> > involved with and according to Palmer he has lost a $100,000 USG
> > because of my interventions.  Thats why he is always making
> > allegations against me and other he feels I'm associated with.  Simple
> > paranoia.  He even has claimed I'm an ICANN operative.  Imagine that.
> > Me an ICANN operative.  Those of you now rolling on the floor laughing
> > have every right to enjoy that giggle.
> >
> > In any case the INS as represented by the TLDA www.tldainc.org is an
> > association of TLD operators and the INS root is essentially a root
> > that sees all TLDs - this includes the chinese, arabic etc. TLDs and
> > many more.
> >
> > kindest regards
> > joe baptista
> >
> > p.s. please feel free to continue feeding the Palmer troll.  He will
> > provide us with endless hours of amusement.  Or in the alternative you
> > might consider having mercy and refuse to feed him saving him what
> > dignity he has left.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:54 AM, John
> > Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >      What are you talking about? Some INS bashers post an
> >      irrelevant link to an anal scanning tool that is pointed
> >      tothe wrong domain and somehow that translates into me not
> >      being "nice" to people? Dude, you and I are NOT in the same
> >      dimension. I stand by what I said. The poster ( JW) is an
> >      INS basher and a Baptista synchophant. That explains it all.
> >
> >           ----- Original Message -----
> >           From: Hugh Dierker
> >           To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer
> >           Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:41 PM
> >           Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now
> >           has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been
> >           launched
> >
> >
>            John, One does not correct PR problems by pointing out how right
> they are. When you first put this out there, you did
>            nothing to aid anyone but INS sophisticates in the use of your
> concept. I was going to ask you to step in down a notch
>            and make it user friendly, but I knew your response. Then you
> use the name "tool" to describe what you think is a
>            weakness. A weakness created by your lack of human
> compatability. Now what is the chance that a man as brilliant as you
>            in your area,, is also brilliant in interpersonal relations.
> Hint-- Not likely.The genius often comes not in knowing ones
>            capabilities, but in knowing ones incapacities.In securities and
> security they do not look at what is secure - but what
>            is insecure. If you are this blind to this glaring problem with
> your initiative how can anyone rely on the reliability
>            and security of your networks?
>
>            --- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer <
> jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>                 From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>                 Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a
> real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched
>                 To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                 Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:47 PM
>                  Hold on just a minute: Someone points dnsstuff.com at the
> WRONG domain (Not the one that has anything to do
>                  with e-mail at all), and it comes upwith some lame
> complaints about some TTLs being outside of some range on
>                 the WRONG domain, and then when I point thisout, you jump
> all over me for correcting the error that Jeff
>                  Williams (a Baptista synchophant) makes? And that makes me
> stubborn/condescending how? I'll translate for you:
>                 All of those involved in this thread (running the bogus
> dnsstuff query, and then jumping on me when Icorrect
>                 your facts) are interested in seeing the INS fail.  OK, do
> I get to take a shot at you now? Lets see - Why are
>                 you using a yahoo account? What are you trying to hide?Why
> should we trust you? Yahoo accounts (like GMAIL) are
>                 used by spammers and 419 scammers... Sound unfair? How do
> you think you sound to me?
>
>                      ----- Original Message -----
>                      From: Hugh Dierker
>                      To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer
>                      Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:42 PM
>                      Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has
> a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been
>                      launched
>
>
>                      Dear John, I got this gal who lives right off
> Pennsylvania ave in DC. She kind of is in the thick of
>                      things there. She has worked some sticky pol.
> campaigns. Bright as hell. Picked up a dual major BS in
>                      poly sci and pr, got a fancy Masters in PR and
> international law or something, all of it Cum laudee
>                      dah. Part of the Amer. Uni system there. She has a
> knack for making people like who they want to
>                      hate. Stays in the background, loves a darkhorse.
> Point is. She don't need you but you need her. Your
>                      style of public relations can only lead to an abysmal
> martyrdom.. I would not even wager on your
>                      chance in hell of making your program work with your
> condescending, everyone else is an idiot
>                      attitude. Any further advice will cost ya. But I
> reckon your too stubborn to ask for it.
>
>                      --- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer <
> jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>                           From: John Palmer <
> jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>                           Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now
> has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm)
>                           has been launched
>                           To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>                           Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 3:53 PM
>
>
>                           Nope - Lion-Mail.net is configured exactly as its
> supposed to be. The ignorant
>                           tool
>                           at dnsstuff.com doesn't know what its talking
> about.
>
>                           Of course there are no MX records for
> Lion-Mail.net - you aren't supposed
>                           to send
>                           mail TO the Lion-Mail.net domain - E-Mail
> addresses for Lion-Mail are in the
>                           ..LION TLD. www.lion-mail.net is only a crutch
> portal for people who still
>                           haven't configured their machines to use an INS
> resolver.
>
>                           As for SPAM, LionMail has a zero tolerance for
> spammers and terminates accounts
>                           of spammers
>                           immediatly. We have outbound as well as inbound
> spam filters.
>
>                           ----- Original Message -----
>                           From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <
> jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>                           To: "Stephane Bortzmeyer" <bortzmeyer@xxxxxx>;
> "ICANN
>                           Policy staff" <policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN
> SSAC"
>                           <ssac@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN
>                           SSAC Dave Piscitello" <dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxx>;
> "Steve
>                           Crocker" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>                           Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann legal"
>                           <jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; "Paul Levins"
>                           <paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx>; "DHS info" <
> info@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
>                           "FTC IP marketplace comments" <
> IPMarketPlace@xxxxxxx>;
>                           "FTC OIG's office" <OIG@xxxxxxx>
>                           Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:01 AM
>                           Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now
> has a real E-Mail Service
>                           -LionMail(tm) has been launched
>
>                           >
>                           > Stephane and all,
>                           >
>                           >  The problem with Gmail is that it is a spam
> perliforator
>                           > extrodinair.  I suspect so is lion-mail.net.
>                           > I do see that lion-mail.net is a DNS disaster.
> See:
>                           >
>
> http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnslite.php?r=homepage&domain=lion-mail.net
>                           >
>                           > and
>                           >
>
> http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=lion-mail.net&token=12504cd81a964e092f54639635bf8019
>                           >
>                           >
>                           >
>                           > So yes Stephane, your point below is well
> taken!  >:)
>                           > Perhaps ICANN SSAC can find the initiative and
> garner
>                           > the effort to see to it that lion-mail.netget's 
> it's act
>                           > together properly.  As usual for me, I am not
> holding
>                           > my breath in anticipation of such.
>                           >
>                           > That said, now wouldn't it be nice if nic.frwould 
> be
>                           > so kind and considerate to the world if it
> would get
>                           > it's act together?  A novel idea I'm sure, and
> perhaps
>                           > even to hope so is a near miracle.  But I have
> faith.  >:)
>                           > See:
>                           >
>
> http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=nic.fr&token=13e078b6394942dd2a84269300c3f019
>                           >
>                           > Yet I do see that some progress has been made
> sense I last checked.
>                           > However not quite there yet, eh?  >:)  Could it
> be that nic.fr is
>                           > waiting
>                           > for it's "Stimulus" check so as to be able to
> afford to make
>                           the obvious
>                           >
>                           > minor corrections?  >:/
>                           > Vive la France or let them eat cake?
>                           >
>                           > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
>                           >
>                           >> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 07:19:15PM -0500,
>                           >>  John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote
>                           >>  a message of 54 lines which said:
>                           >>
>                           >> > Check it out at http://lion-mail.net
>                           >>
>                           >> > LionMail is a low cost web based e-mail
> service
>                           >>
>                           >> Low-cost at $1/month while we have Gmail for
> free?
>                           >>
>                           >> But the best thing is the FAQ:
>                           >>
>                           >> > Most spammers use systems that do not know
> about the INS and
>                           >> > therefore they will not be able to reach
> you.
>                           >>
>                           >> The dummy TLDs are not reachable therefore you
> will receive less
>                           >> spam. That's something I never thought about
> :-)
>                           >
>                           > Regards,
>                           >
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> >
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>
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> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>   Abraham Lincoln
> "YES WE CAN!"  Barack ( Berry ) Obama
>
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
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