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Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched
- To: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched
- From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 21:17:00 -0700
Dr. Joe and all,
I know, I know!
Joe Baptista wrote:
> Well the HEX is one big legal scam and John is a major part of it. An
> operative of sorts. You can check his association out here.
>
> http://www.public-root.com/g-root.htm
>
> But I want to make clear. The Inclusive name space has nothing to do
> with these scam artists. Were cleaning house. Something ICANN should
> consider too is a good house cleaning.
>
> God bless.
> joe
>
> On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:58 PM, Jeffrey A.
> Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Dr. Joe and all,
>
> Thank you Dr. Joe for stepping up to the plate and for your
> candor.
> I am sure that many if not most appreciated you doing so.
>
> It has also come to my attention unfortunately and sadly
> that
> Mr. Palmers own Domain Name for his Email address is a
> rather horrendous mess as well, see:
> http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dns
> ite.php?r=homepage&domain=american-webmasters.net
>
> and
> htt
>
> ://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=american-webmasters.net&token=258027474494427c2c65999134c3d019
>
> As such, and quite frankly, I believe this Domain Name is
> abusive and
> should
> be taken down immediately, so that no other unwitting user
> will be
> damaged as a innocent result of accessing same. We are now
> blocking
> any and all access to american-webmasters.net, and
> encouraging all
> other affiliates to do so as well post haste so as to at
> least limit the
> potential
> damage and exposure. Seems that ADNS is hosting this Domain
> Name
> and it too should be reviewed closely. See:
> http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?i
>
> =american-webmasters.net&server=&email=on&token=25001979237b43c226b5369338ee9019
>
> also see:
> http://pr
>
> vate.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=adns.net&token=25706ac052c543d323b561923b678019
>
> which indicates no NS records and as such makes it
> questionable that
> such may be pointing to non authoritative name servers,
> problem records
> are Nameserver 209.62.64.46 did not provide IPs for all NS
> records.
> Nameserver 216.122.7.155 did not provide IPs for all NS
> records.
> This of course opens up the very great possibility for many
> sorts of
> IP originated attacks. Not a good thing!
>
> This sort of thing is something ICANN could handle right
> away,
> but my guess is, and I hope I am wrong, is that they will do
> nothing
> what so ever and the user community at a minimum will remain
>
> particularly exposed to this particular hazzard/danger.
>
>
> Joe Baptista wrote:
>
> > I think it's time for me to step in and defend the INS
> (inclusive name
> > space) community before Mr. Palmer makes a dogs breakfast
> of it.
> >
> > I have asked the TLDA president in waiting, Mr. Gene Marsh
> to
> > represent us - but he's a bit shy and I humbly take on the
> task.
> >
> > Please note that Mr. Palmer is not representative of the
> INS community
> > nor is he our spokesperson.
> >
> > Mr. Palmer is an independent TLD operator associated with
> a scam over
> > in Europe we all call the HEX - i.e. www.inaic.com and
> > www.unifiedroot.com etc. He has little to no support in
> the INS
> > community and his recent travails into INS email systems
> is more scam
> > then good intentions.
> >
> > I was responsible for putting a stop to the scam Mr.
> Palmer is
> > involved with and according to Palmer he has lost a
> $100,000 USG
> > because of my interventions. Thats why he is always
> making
> > allegations against me and other he feels I'm associated
> with. Simple
> > paranoia. He even has claimed I'm an ICANN operative.
> Imagine that.
> > Me an ICANN operative. Those of you now rolling on the
> floor laughing
> > have every right to enjoy that giggle.
> >
> > In any case the INS as represented by the TLDA
> www.tldainc.org is an
> > association of TLD operators and the INS root is
> essentially a root
> > that sees all TLDs - this includes the chinese, arabic
> etc. TLDs and
> > many more.
> >
> > kindest regards
> > joe baptista
> >
> > p.s. please feel free to continue feeding the Palmer
> troll. He will
> > provide us with endless hours of amusement. Or in the
> alternative you
> > might consider having mercy and refuse to feed him saving
> him what
> > dignity he has left.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 12:54 AM, John
> > Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > What are you talking about? Some INS bashers post an
> > irrelevant link to an anal scanning tool that is
> pointed
> > tothe wrong domain and somehow that translates into
> me not
> > being "nice" to people? Dude, you and I are NOT in
> the same
> > dimension. I stand by what I said. The poster ( JW)
> is an
> > INS basher and a Baptista synchophant. That explains
> it all..
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Hugh Dierker
> > To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer
> > Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 11:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace
> now
> > has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has been
>
> > launched
> >
> >
> John, One does not correct PR problems by
> pointing out how right they are. When you first put this out
> there, you did
> nothing to aid anyone but INS sophisticates in
> the use of your concept. I was going to ask you to step in
> down a notch
> and make it user friendly, but I knew your
> response.. Then you use the name "tool" to describe what you
> think is a
> weakness. A weakness created by your lack of
> human compatability. Now what is the chance that a man as
> brilliant as you
> in your area,, is also brilliant in interpersonal
> relations. Hint-- Not likely.The genius often comes not in
> knowing ones
> capabilities, but in knowing ones incapacities.In
> securities and security they do not look at what is secure -
> but what
> is insecure. If you are this blind to this
> glaring problem with your initiative how can anyone rely on
> the reliability
> and security of your networks?
>
> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer
> <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: John Palmer
> <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive
> Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has
> been launched
> To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx,
> ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 8:47 PM
> Hold on just a minute: Someone points
> dnsstuff.com at the WRONG domain (Not the one that has
> anything to do
> with e-mail at all), and it comes upwith
> some lame complaints about some TTLs being outside of some
> range on
> the WRONG domain, and then when I point
> thisout, you jump all over me for correcting the error that
> Jeff
> Williams (a Baptista synchophant) makes? And
> that makes me stubborn/condescending how? I'll translate for
> you:
> All of those involved in this thread
> (running the bogus dnsstuff query, and then jumping on me
> when Icorrect
> your facts) are interested in seeing the INS
> fail. OK, do I get to take a shot at you now? Lets see -
> Why are
> you using a yahoo account? What are you
> trying to hide?Why should we trust you? Yahoo accounts (like
> GMAIL) are
> used by spammers and 419 scammers... Sound
> unfair? How do you think you sound to me?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hugh Dierker
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; John Palmer
> Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 7:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive
> Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service -LionMail(tm) has
> been
> launched
>
>
> Dear John, I got this gal who lives
> right off Pennsylvania ave in DC. She kind of is in the
> thick of
> things there. She has worked some
> sticky pol. campaigns. Bright as hell. Picked up a dual
> major BS in
> poly sci and pr, got a fancy Masters in
> PR and international law or something, all of it Cum laudee
> dah. Part of the Amer. Uni system
> there. She has a knack for making people like who they want
> to
> hate. Stays in the background, loves a
> darkhorse. Point is. She don't need you but you need her.
> Your
> style of public relations can only lead
> to an abysmal martyrdom.. I would not even wager on your
> chance in hell of making your program
> work with your condescending, everyone else is an idiot
> attitude. Any further advice will cost
> ya. But I reckon your too stubborn to ask for it.
>
> --- On Mon, 4/6/09, John Palmer
> <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> From: John Palmer
> <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The
> Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service
> -LionMail(tm)
> has been launched
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, April 6, 2009, 3:53
> PM
>
>
> Nope - Lion-Mail.net is configured
> exactly as its supposed to be. The ignorant
> tool
> at dnsstuff.com doesn't know what
> its talking about.
>
> Of course there are no MX records
> for Lion-Mail.net - you aren't supposed
> to send
> mail TO the Lion-Mail.net domain -
> E-Mail addresses for Lion-Mail are in the
> ..LION TLD. www.lion-mail.net is
> only a crutch portal for people who still
> haven't configured their machines
> to use an INS resolver.
>
> As for SPAM, LionMail has a zero
> tolerance for spammers and terminates accounts
> of spammers
> immediatly. We have outbound as
> well as inbound spam filters.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeffrey A. Williams"
> <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Stephane Bortzmeyer"
> <bortzmeyer@xxxxxx>; "ICANN
> Policy staff"
> <policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN SSAC"
> <ssac@xxxxxxxxx>; "ICANN
> SSAC Dave Piscitello"
> <dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Steve
> Crocker" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann
> legal"
> <jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx>; "Paul Levins"
>
> <paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx>; "DHS
> info" <info@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
> "FTC IP marketplace comments"
> <IPMarketPlace@xxxxxxx>;
> "FTC OIG's office" <OIG@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 8:01
> AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The
> Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service
> -LionMail(tm) has been launched
>
> >
> > Stephane and all,
> >
> > The problem with Gmail is that
> it is a spam perliforator
> > extrodinair. I suspect so is
> lion-mail..net.
> > I do see that lion-mail.net is a
> DNS disaster. See:
> >
>
>
> http://member.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnslite.php?r=homepage&domain=lion-mail.net
>
> >
> > and
> >
>
>
> http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=lion-mail.net&token=12504cd81a964e092f54639635bf8019
>
> >
> >
> >
> > So yes Stephane, your point
> below is well taken! >:)
> > Perhaps ICANN SSAC can find the
> initiative and garner
> > the effort to see to it that
> lion-mail.net get's it's act
> > together properly.. As usual
> for me, I am not holding
> > my breath in anticipation of
> such.
> >
> > That said, now wouldn't it be
> nice if nic.fr would be
> > so kind and considerate to the
> world if it would get
> > it's act together? A novel idea
> I'm sure, and perhaps
> > even to hope so is a near
> miracle. But I have faith. >:)
> > See:
> >
>
>
> http://private.dnsstuff.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=nic.fr&token=13e078b6394942dd2a84269300c3f019
>
> >
> > Yet I do see that some progress
> has been made sense I last checked.
> > However not quite there yet,
> eh? >:) Could it be that nic.fr is
> > waiting
> > for it's "Stimulus" check so as
> to be able to afford to make
> the obvious
> >
> > minor corrections? >:/
> > Vive la France or let them eat
> cake?
> >
> > Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at
> 07:19:15PM -0500,
> >> John Palmer
> <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote
> >> a message of 54 lines which
> said:
> >>
> >> > Check it out at
> http://lion-mail..net
> >>
> >> > LionMail is a low cost web
> based e-mail service
> >>
> >> Low-cost at $1/month while we
> have Gmail for free?
> >>
> >> But the best thing is the FAQ:
> >>
> >> > Most spammers use systems
> that do not know about the INS and
> >> > therefore they will not be
> able to reach you.
> >>
> >> The dummy TLDs are not
> reachable therefore you will receive less
> >> spam. That's something I never
> thought about :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. -
> (Over 284k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obedience of the law is the
> greatest freedom" -
> > Abraham Lincoln
> > "YES WE CAN!" Barack ( Berry )
> Obama
> >
> > "Credit should go with the
> performance of duty and not with what is
> > very often the accident of
> glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P;
> the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B
> is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than
> PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing
> (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> >
> ===============================================================
>
> > Updated 1/26/04
> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng.
> SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
> > div. of Information Network
> Eng. INEG. INC.
> > ABA member in good standing
> member ID 01257402 E-Mail
> > jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > My Phone: 214-244-4827
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joe Baptista
> > www.publicroot..org
> > PublicRoot Consortium
> >
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>
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> Inclusive,
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>
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> >
>
> Regards,
>
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 284k
> members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> Abraham Lincoln
> "YES WE CAN!" Barack ( Berry ) Obama
>
> "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with
> what is
> very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the
> burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied
> by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir.
> 1947]
> =====
> =========================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data
> security IDNS.
> div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
> jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> My Phone: 214-244-4827
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Joe Baptista
> www.publicroot.org
> PublicRoot Consortium
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> The future of the Internet is Open, Transparent, Inclusive,
> Representative & Accountable to the Internet community @large.
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Office: +1 (360) 526-6077 (extension 052)
> Fax: +1 (509) 479-0084
>
Regards,
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 284k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
Abraham Lincoln
"YES WE CAN!" Barack ( Berry ) Obama
"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS.
div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail
jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
My Phone: 214-244-4827
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