Re: [ga] List Rules, moderator and chair

[Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

>  John, Jeff and Joe (J3)
>
> Gentlemen the list participants determined, basically by apathy, that the
> GA would be rudderless. There are rules. There are list moderators. There is
> a chair. However there was radical and gross opposition to such structure as
> arguably not enough participation was forthcoming to support legitimacy.
>
> So you are SOL.
>

OK .. thats a pity.


>
> I suppose you have options. I will lame duck moderate for you. In which
> case a stern shame on you is in order as defamation would not be in order
> for the stating of what are clearly opinions. However I reckon I could twist
> some arms and get someone suspended for the sake of civil discourse.
>

Well - I have no problem with that.

 You could gather ten list votes, non confidential, to reinstate our list
> rules and I will act as chairman for a short duration for a new election to
> take place. You would need to provide voting and polling booths.
>

I can do that.  In fact I would prefer that we ensure the list rules are
reinstated.  I'm sure I can come up with 10 people - no problem.  Maybe Mr.
Palmer can come up with five and i'll bring in the other five.

For the purpose of determining who are the electors here I maintain a list
of electors at URL:

http://www.publicroot.org/GA-Electors/index.html

For the purpose of this vote and in accordance with  Section 8 ELECTION AND
FUNCTIONS OF THE CHAIR found in the RULES OF ORDER AND PARTICIPATION FOR THE
MAILING LISTS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE GNSO, the following are allowed
to vote.

Date Enumerated / Email Address / Total Posts

06 Apr 2007 / cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx  / 28
06 Apr 2007 / kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 39
06 Apr 2007 / dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx  / 194
06 Apr 2007 / bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 21
06 Apr 2007 / jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 480
06 Apr 2007 / hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx  / 311
06 Apr 2007 / jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 97
06 Apr 2007 / gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx  / 59
06 Apr 2007 / dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx  / 21
06 Apr 2007 / jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 12
06 Apr 2007 / froomkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 6
06 Apr 2007 / karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx  / 62
06 Apr 2007 / terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 34
06 Apr 2007 / baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 133
06 Apr 2007 / tim@xxxxxxxxxxx  / 8
06 Apr 2007 / enoss@xxxxxxxxxx  / 8
06 Apr 2007 / narten@xxxxxxxxxx  / 42
06 Apr 2007 / gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 60
06 Apr 2007 / sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 43
06 Apr 2007 / andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 33
13 Apr 2007 / domains@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 59
13 Apr 2007 / veni@xxxxxxxx  / 17
27 Apr 2007 / edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 10
01 Jun 2007 / konrad_brandt@xxxxxxxxx  / 5
22 Jun 2007 / roddixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 3
22 Jun 2007 / faia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 13
29 Jun 2007 / debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 121
29 Jun 2007 / roberto@xxxxxxxxx  / 38
29 Jun 2007 / kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 8
13 Jul 2007 / avri@xxxxxxx  / 11
13 Jul 2007 / bortzmeyer@xxxxxx  / 20
20 Jul 2007 / elisabeth.porteneuve@xxxxxxxxxxxx  / 7
20 Jul 2007 / somitho@xxxxxxxxx  / 15
17 Aug 2007 / kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxxx  / 6
7 Sep 2007 / mike@xxxxxxxxxx  / 5
28 Sep 2007 / significants@xxxxxxxxx  / 5
5 Oct 2007 / ross@xxxxxxxxxx  / 29
5 Oct 2007 / peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 14
5 Oct 2007 / tlda@xxxxxxxxxx  / 5
18 Jan 2008 / jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 1254
18 Jan 2008 / dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx / 140
18 Jan 2008 / gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx / 135
18 Jan 2008 / domains@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 68
18 Jan 2008 / roberto@xxxxxxxxx / 60
18 Jan 2008 / jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 131
18 Jan 2008 / karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 82
18 Jan 2008 / gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 119
18 Jan 2008 / debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 158
18 Jan 2008 / baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 216
18 Jan 2008 / andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 37
18 Jan 2008 / froomkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 7
18 Jan 2008 / narten@xxxxxxxxxx / 104
18 Jan 2008 / kent@xxxxxxxxx / 9
18 Jan 2008 / sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 62
18 Jan 2008 / peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 15
25 Jan 2008 / michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 9
25 Jan 2008 / ross@xxxxxxxxxx / 35
25 Jan 2008 / bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 24
25 Jan 2008 / tlda@xxxxxxxxxx / 14
25 Jan 2008 / bortzmeyer@xxxxxx / 27
25 Jan 2008 / terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 45
15 Feb 2008 / dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx / 280
15 Feb 2008 / cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 33
15 Feb 2008 / significants@xxxxxxxxx / 6
15 Feb 2008 / peter@xxxxxxxx / 19
1 Feb 2008 / tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 51
8 Feb 2008 / jeff.neuman@xxxxxxxxxx / 12
8 Feb 2008 / edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 16
8 Feb 2008 / jaap@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 8
22 Feb 2008 / baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx / 12
22 Feb 2008 / avri@xxxxxxx / 13
7 Mar 2008 / chris@xxxxxx / 47
28 Mar 2008 / shane.kinsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 8
28 Mar 2008 / jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 13
4 Apr 2008 / elisabeth.porteneuve@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 13
4 Apr 2008 / hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx / 349
4 Apr 2008 / jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 16
27 Jun 2008 / glen@xxxxxxxxx / 91
27 Jun 2008 / richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 8
25 Jul 2008 / enoss@xxxxxxxxxx / 10



>  Probably you should just recognize that certain elements within this list
> do not want it organized and there is not enough support to override those
> elements. Therefor suck it up, try to be nice and meanwhile grow some thick
> skin.
>

I understand.  The GA however is very important to the inclusive name space
and as such I would strongly recommend anyone on the GA who is also in the
INS support this move to reinstate the rules.

regards
joe baptista

p.s. and lots of XOXOXOXO to you too Hugh.



>
> XOXOXO
>
> --- On *Tue, 4/7/09, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
> From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service
> -LionMail(tm) has been launched
> To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 5:04 PM
>
>  Slander is a violaton of list rules. I have made a formal complaint to
> the list moderator, both about Mr. Baptista's messages but also
> about Mr. Williams slanderous domain remarks as well.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>  *From:* Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* jp@xxxxxxxx ; abuse@xxxxxxxx ; DHS cert <cert@xxxxxxxx> ; DHS
> security alert <soc@xxxxxxxxxxx> ; John 
> Palmer<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
> hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx ; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; DHS info <info@xxxxxxxxxxx> ;
> GAO sec Greg Wilshusen <wilshuseng@xxxxxxx> ; FTC IP marketplace 
> comments<IPMarketPlace@xxxxxxx>; FTC
> OIG's office <OIG@xxxxxxx> ; ICANN SSAC <ssac@xxxxxxxxx> ; ICANN SSAC Dave
> Piscitello <dave.piscitello@xxxxxxxxx> ; Steve Crocker<steve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
> Paul
> Levins <paul.levins@xxxxxxxxx> ; Cheryl Preston <prestonc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
> 2nd
> address Cheryl Langdon-Orr <langdonorr@xxxxxxxxx> ; Avri Doria<avri@xxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:20 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail
> Service -LionMail(tm) has been launched
>
> Well the HEX is one big legal scam and John is a major part of it.  An
> operative of sorts.  You can check his association out here.
>
>  (false on both accounts)
>
>
>


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