Re: [ga] List Rules, moderator and chair

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

(the xtra recipients have a reason for inclusion of antagonists and 
protagonists)
 
Ladies and Gentlemen,
 
Some dude with a middle name Hussein made an off physically challenged remark 
on Leno's program. Before it aired, he reached out to the leader of the 
offended and they agreed to make a teaching moment out of the problem.(the 
middle name part is to recognize that some of us like them, ie eric hugh 
dierker)
 
Perhaps here we can accomplish several good objectives out of this situation;
 
Shed some light on the core programs, good, bad or indifferent.
Once again, try to bring this list up a notch in efficacy.
Outreach and become even more available to netizens from varied backgrounds and 
persuasions.
 
So that we may stand on principles rather than personalities, until we have 
volunteers otherwise, we will move with our standing Debbie and Joe as 
moderators and myself as chair, but we will step aside as warranted and Joe 
will have a recusal on the moderation of the current consideration of bad taste.
 
As Debbie reiterated for us. We do have list rules. Unless the us uproar 
against it, we will make effort to again enforce them.
 
Glenn, thanks for all you do, and ... forewarned is forearmed, this may lead to 
something.
 
Reminder on the rules of communication with the chair, anything you send to me 
privately will be respected, anything I send to you is fair public domain game 
-- not even a copywrong claim.


--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] List Rules, moderator and chair
To: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 7:26 AM





On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:






John, Jeff and Joe (J3)
 
Gentlemen the list participants determined, basically by apathy, that the GA 
would be rudderless. There are rules. There are list moderators. There is a 
chair. However there was radical and gross opposition to such structure as 
arguably not enough participation was forthcoming to support legitimacy.
 
So you are SOL.

OK .. thats a pity.
 







 
I suppose you have options. I will lame duck moderate for you. In which case a 
stern shame on you is in order as defamation would not be in order for the 
stating of what are clearly opinions. However I reckon I could twist some arms 
and get someone suspended for the sake of civil discourse.

Well - I have no problem with that.








You could gather ten list votes, non confidential, to reinstate our list rules 
and I will act as chairman for a short duration for a new election to take 
place. You would need to provide voting and polling booths.

I can do that.  In fact I would prefer that we ensure the list rules are 
reinstated.  I'm sure I can come up with 10 people - no problem.  Maybe Mr. 
Palmer can come up with five and i'll bring in the other five.

For the purpose of determining who are the electors here I maintain a list of 
electors at URL:

http://www.publicroot.org/GA-Electors/index.html

For the purpose of this vote and in accordance with  Section 8 ELECTION AND 
FUNCTIONS OF THE CHAIR found in the RULES OF ORDER AND PARTICIPATION FOR THE 
MAILING LISTS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF THE GNSO, the following are allowed to 
vote.

Date Enumerated / Email Address / Total Posts

06 Apr 2007 / cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx  / 28
06 Apr 2007 / kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 39
06 Apr 2007 / dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx  / 194
06 Apr 2007 / bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 21
06 Apr 2007 / jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 480
06 Apr 2007 / hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx  / 311
06 Apr 2007 / jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 97
06 Apr 2007 / gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx  / 59
06 Apr 2007 / dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx  / 21
06 Apr 2007 / jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 12
06 Apr 2007 / froomkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 6
06 Apr 2007 / karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx  / 62
06 Apr 2007 / terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 34
06 Apr 2007 / baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 133
06 Apr 2007 / tim@xxxxxxxxxxx  / 8
06 Apr 2007 / enoss@xxxxxxxxxx  / 8
06 Apr 2007 / narten@xxxxxxxxxx  / 42
06 Apr 2007 / gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 60
06 Apr 2007 / sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 43
06 Apr 2007 / andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 33
13 Apr 2007 / domains@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 59
13 Apr 2007 / veni@xxxxxxxx  / 17
27 Apr 2007 / edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 10
01 Jun 2007 / konrad_brandt@xxxxxxxxx  / 5
22 Jun 2007 / roddixon@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 3
22 Jun 2007 / faia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 13
29 Jun 2007 / debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 121
29 Jun 2007 / roberto@xxxxxxxxx  / 38
29 Jun 2007 / kim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 8
13 Jul 2007 / avri@xxxxxxx  / 11
13 Jul 2007 / bortzmeyer@xxxxxx  / 20
20 Jul 2007 / elisabeth.porteneuve@xxxxxxxxxxxx  / 7
20 Jul 2007 / somitho@xxxxxxxxx  / 15
17 Aug 2007 / kstubbs@xxxxxxxxxxxx  / 6
7 Sep 2007 / mike@xxxxxxxxxx  / 5
28 Sep 2007 / significants@xxxxxxxxx  / 5
5 Oct 2007 / ross@xxxxxxxxxx  / 29
5 Oct 2007 / peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx  / 14
5 Oct 2007 / tlda@xxxxxxxxxx  / 5
18 Jan 2008 / jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 1254
18 Jan 2008 / dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx / 140
18 Jan 2008 / gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx / 135
18 Jan 2008 / domains@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 68
18 Jan 2008 / roberto@xxxxxxxxx / 60
18 Jan 2008 / jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 131
18 Jan 2008 / karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 82
18 Jan 2008 / gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 119
18 Jan 2008 / debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 158
18 Jan 2008 / baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 216
18 Jan 2008 / andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 37
18 Jan 2008 / froomkin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 7
18 Jan 2008 / narten@xxxxxxxxxx / 104
18 Jan 2008 / kent@xxxxxxxxx / 9
18 Jan 2008 / sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 62
18 Jan 2008 / peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 15
25 Jan 2008 / michael@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 9
25 Jan 2008 / ross@xxxxxxxxxx / 35
25 Jan 2008 / bashar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 24
25 Jan 2008 / tlda@xxxxxxxxxx / 14
25 Jan 2008 / bortzmeyer@xxxxxx / 27
25 Jan 2008 / terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 45
15 Feb 2008 / dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx / 280
15 Feb 2008 / cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 33
15 Feb 2008 / significants@xxxxxxxxx / 6
15 Feb 2008 / peter@xxxxxxxx / 19
1 Feb 2008 / tlda@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 51
8 Feb 2008 / jeff.neuman@xxxxxxxxxx / 12
8 Feb 2008 / edward@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 16
8 Feb 2008 / jaap@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 8
22 Feb 2008 / baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx / 12
22 Feb 2008 / avri@xxxxxxx / 13
7 Mar 2008 / chris@xxxxxx / 47
28 Mar 2008 / shane.kinsch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx / 8
28 Mar 2008 / jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 13
4 Apr 2008 / elisabeth.porteneuve@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 13
4 Apr 2008 / hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx / 349
4 Apr 2008 / jnevett@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx / 16
27 Jun 2008 / glen@xxxxxxxxx / 91
27 Jun 2008 / richardhenderson@xxxxxxxxxxxx / 8
25 Jul 2008 / enoss@xxxxxxxxxx / 10

 






Probably you should just recognize that certain elements within this list do 
not want it organized and there is not enough support to override those 
elements. Therefor suck it up, try to be nice and meanwhile grow some thick 
skin.

I understand.  The GA however is very important to the inclusive name space and 
as such I would strongly recommend anyone on the GA who is also in the INS 
support this move to reinstate the rules.

regards
joe baptista

p.s. and lots of XOXOXOXO to you too Hugh.

 






 
XOXOXO

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service 
-LionMail(tm) has been launched
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 5:04 PM



Slander is a violaton of list rules. I have made a formal complaint to the list 
moderator, both about Mr. Baptista's messages but also
about Mr. Williams slanderous domain remarks as well.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joe Baptista 
To: Jeffrey A. Williams 
Cc: jp@xxxxxxxx ; abuse@xxxxxxxx ; DHS cert ; DHS security alert ; John Palmer 
; hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx ; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; DHS info ; GAO sec Greg 
Wilshusen ; FTC IP marketplace comments ; FTC OIG's office ; ICANN SSAC ; ICANN 
SSAC Dave Piscitello ; Steve Crocker ; Paul Levins ; Cheryl Preston ; 2nd 
address Cheryl Langdon-Orr ; Avri Doria 
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: The Inclusive Namespace now has a real E-Mail Service 
-LionMail(tm) has been launched

Well the HEX is one big legal scam and John is a major part of it.  An 
operative of sorts.  You can check his association out here.

 (false on both accounts)



-- 
Joe Baptista
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