RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures

["Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Right, so we seem to be settling on option 1, a fixed time zone.
Just need to settle on which - UTC or PST and then we can put it out for
standard comment.

I think UTC since so much of our communication still refers to this at
least.
Given our meetings are at variable times, it should be approximately fair
overall.

Jonathan


-----Original Message-----
From: Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 30 April 2013 15:29
To: Wendy Seltzer
Cc: WUKnoben; jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Zahid Jamil'; 'Marika Konings';
council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures

I agree, Option 2 would complicate things too much. I thought that for
24:00 where the sender is located might work too, but a tough deadline would
be the clearer option.

Volker
> Hi,
>
> Since I proposed the reconfiguration to give people the clearest 
> notice of when motions were due, I'd recommend option 1. I recognize 
> that the amount of time wouldn't be quite the same from month to 
> month, but the deadline would be fixed. (I preferred 8 calendar days, 
> but 10 is a fine
> compromise.)
>
> --Wendy
>
>
> On 04/29/2013 03:02 PM, WUKnoben wrote:
>> We vary the meeting times to balance the incommodities as best as 
>> possible. I think its consequent to vary the motion deadlines with 
>> the meeting times, too (option #2).
>> The deadlines can be published with the meeting calendar in addition 
>> to every single reminder.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Wolf-Ulrich
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Jonathan Robinson
>> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:31 PM
>> To: 'Zahid Jamil' ; 'Volker Greimann'
>> Cc: 'Wendy Seltzer' ; 'Marika Konings' ; council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I'd like to close this off and move to posting it for public comment.
>>
>> My understanding is that we are agreed on 10 calendar days as this is 
>> global and meets what was originally intended.
>>
>> As far as a time-zone is concerned, we have two options:
>>
>> 1. Choose a fixed time zone in which the 23h59 cut-off occurs.  There 
>> is no universally fair time zone to use for a global audience but UTC 
>> seems as close to a standard as we have.
>> PST provides for a later sunset but is arguably less of a standard 
>> than UTC.
>>
>> OR
>>
>> 2. Agree that the cut-off is 10 calendar days (exactly) before the 
>> meeting occurs.  This will mean that the time of the cut-off varies 
>> on a per meeting basis.
>> This is probably most fair but could lead to confusion since it 
>> varies on a per meeting basis.
>> Still, as long as the cut-off time is sent as part of the reminder in 
>> calling for motions, it seems reasonable.
>>
>> Any comments or inputs, please provide them ASAP before we move to 
>> public comment.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>> [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
>> Sent: 23 April 2013 14:47
>> To: Volker Greimann
>> Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Wendy Seltzer; Marika Konings; 
>> <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures
>>
>>
>> How about using 23:59 PST as the deadline?
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Zahid Jamil
>> Barrister-at-law
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>> On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:45, Volker Greimann <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> While I support this in general, I am not sure we really need such a
>> policy. The proposed language cuts the time available for bringing 
>> motions short for our American councillors compared to right now.
>>> Volker
>>>
>>>> I support Wendy's language.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
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>>>> On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:30, "Jonathan Robinson"
>> <jonathan.robinson@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am in support of Wendy's wording (with a minor tweak) as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council for 
>>>>> inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later than 
>>>>> 23:59 UTC on the day, 8 calendar days before the GNSO Council meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any concerns or objections, please raise ASAP otherwise I suggest 
>>>>> we post for public comment.
>


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