Re: RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures

["Petter Rindforth" <petter.rindforth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Option 1 and UTC
 
seems to be the best solution of two that's not (and likely cannot be)
perfect for everyone.
 
Best,
Petter
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Thank you
On 30 apr 2013 17:50 "Jonathan Robinson" <jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Right, so we seem to be settling on option 1, a fixed time zone.
> Just need to settle on which - UTC or PST and then we can put it out
> for
> standard comment.
> I think UTC since so much of our communication still refers to this at
> least.
> Given our meetings are at variable times, it should be approximately
> fair
> overall.
> Jonathan
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Volker Greimann [mailto:vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 30 April 2013 15:29
> To: Wendy Seltzer
> Cc: WUKnoben; jrobinson@xxxxxxxxxxxx; 'Zahid Jamil'; 'Marika Konings';
> <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures
> I agree, Option 2 would complicate things too much. I thought that for
> 24:00 where the sender is located might work too, but a tough deadline
> would
> be the clearer option.
> Volker
> > Hi,
> > Since I proposed the reconfiguration to give people the clearest
> > notice of when motions were due, I'd recommend option 1. I recognize
> > that the amount of time wouldn't be quite the same from month to
> > month, but the deadline would be fixed. (I preferred 8 calendar
> > days,
> > but 10 is a fine
> > compromise.)
> > --Wendy
> > On 04/29/2013 03:02 PM, WUKnoben wrote:
> > > We vary the meeting times to balance the incommodities as best as
> > > possible. I think its consequent to vary the motion deadlines with
> > > the meeting times, too (option #2).
> > > The deadlines can be published with the meeting calendar in
> > > addition
> > > to every single reminder.
> > > Best regards
> > > Wolf-Ulrich
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- From: Jonathan Robinson
> > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 3:31 PM
> > > To: 'Zahid Jamil' ; 'Volker Greimann'
> > > Cc: 'Wendy Seltzer' ; 'Marika Konings' ; <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: RE: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures
> > > All,
> > > I'd like to close this off and move to posting it for public
> > > comment.
> > > My understanding is that we are agreed on 10 calendar days as this
> > > is
> > > global and meets what was originally intended.
> > > As far as a time-zone is concerned, we have two options:
> > > 1. Choose a fixed time zone in which the 23h59 cut-off occurs.
> > > There
> > > is no universally fair time zone to use for a global audience but
> > > UTC
> > > seems as close to a standard as we have.
> > > PST provides for a later sunset but is arguably less of a standard
> > > than UTC.
> > > OR
> > > 2. Agree that the cut-off is 10 calendar days (exactly) before the
> > > meeting occurs. This will mean that the time of the cut-off varies
> > > on a per meeting basis.
> > > This is probably most fair but could lead to confusion since it
> > > varies on a per meeting basis.
> > > Still, as long as the cut-off time is sent as part of the reminder
> > > in
> > > calling for motions, it seems reasonable.
> > > Any comments or inputs, please provide them ASAP before we move to
> > > public comment.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Jonathan
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > From: <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zahid Jamil
> > > Sent: 23 April 2013 14:47
> > > To: Volker Greimann
> > > Cc: Jonathan Robinson; Wendy Seltzer; Marika Konings;
> > > <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: [council] Changes to GNSO Operating Procedures
> > > How about using 23:59 PST as the deadline?
> > > Best regards,
> > > Zahid Jamil
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> > > On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:45, Volker Greimann
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> > > > While I support this in general, I am not sure we really need
> > > > such a
> > > policy. The proposed language cuts the time available for bringing
> > > motions short for our American councillors compared to right now.
> > > > Volker
> > > > > I support Wendy's language.
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> > > > > On 23 Apr 2013, at 16:30, "Jonathan Robinson"
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> > > > > > All,
> > > > > > I am in support of Wendy's wording (with a minor tweak) as
> > > > > > follows:
> > > > > > Reports and motions should be submitted to the GNSO Council
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > inclusion on the agenda as soon as possible, but no later
> > > > > > than
> > > > > > 23:59 UTC on the day, 8 calendar days before the GNSO
> > > > > > Council meeting.
> > > > > > Any concerns or objections, please raise ASAP otherwise I
> > > > > > suggest
> > > > > > we post for public comment.
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