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Re: [ga] Public Comment Period: NARALO MOU/Multilinguals

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Public Comment Period: NARALO MOU/Multilinguals
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:19:48 -0700
  • Cc: Elisabeth Porteneuve <elisabeth.porteneuve@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <752318.67737.qm@web52903.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Dr. Dierker and all,

 I cannot bless the RALO's as they are an abomination to users
all over the world.  So Dr. Dierker you can have whatever
position you wish, but it seems that it is getting very clear that
the so far reporting in users and user groups do not share your
blessing.

  INEGroup is still preparing it's official response which I
shall post when complete as their spokesman and my duty.
So far for North American members, it's running about
89% against.  As for RALO's in general it's s running about
94% against.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    All,
>
>   Well I think the time has come here at the GA to actually have an
> opinion of this matter.
>
>   1. Is there a problem? I am not so sure. In fact most problems were
> hypothetical at best and anecdotal at normal.
>
>   2. If there is such a problem; what is the solution?
>
>   I only want to steer this a little, and not use names. Someone has
> pleasantly offered resources to get a majority of the translation
> done. Clearly this is not all inclusive but probably sufficient as
> most using the more esoteric languages have already learned a close
> cousin. Besides most of my Vietnamese shoeshine boys just ask me.
>
>   There are some that think that only English should be used. This is
> almost always an American - excuse me, a US citizen. This should not
> be just thrown out, other important systems use strictly English.
>
>   I think that RALOs deal mostly in policy and politics, however
> consideration should be given to what Jefsey contributed.
>
>   I must say that there are others like myself that just kind of get
> more out of the richness of even a translated document rather than
> just monolingual blandness of it all. I cannot converse in Vietnamese
> but I have learned the language well enough to sing and catch the
> nuances which give the flavor of a Viet phrase.
>
>   So let us move to consensus and bless the RALOs with out opinion on
> this.
>
>   When does the Comment Period end?
>
>   Eric
>   (as Chair) Not in the header anymore.
>
> Elisabeth Porteneuve <elisabeth.porteneuve@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>           As far as I know English is mandatory. There is always a
> plane nearby on the radars with pilot not speaking French or Italian,
> and a few seconds to switch languages in critical situation may lead
> to disaster.
>
>   However when launching spacecrafts, the French CapCom speaks French
> in Kourou, counting down dix, neuf, ... etc., and the American CapCom
> speaks English.
>
>   Best,
>   Elisabeth
>     ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Roberto Gaetano
>   To: 'Hugh Dierker' ; 'JFC Morfin' ; 'Debbie Garside' ; 'Jeff
> Williams' ; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Cc: martin.boyle@xxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 7:53 PM
>   Subject: RE: [ga] Public Comment Period: NARALO MOU
>
>
>   Hugh Dierker  wrote:
>
>   The most mission critical worldwide enterprize, I would think is
> Aviation. And for at least 60 years. How do they handle the language
> issue with traffic control?
>
>   In Italy, communication with air traffic control, including control
> tower at airports, can be done either in english or in italian. I
> assume that most commercial pilots will use english, but it is not a
> requirement.
>   To be honest, I don't know how they deal with the matter in airports
> located in bilingual areas.
>
>   Cheers,
>   Roberto
>
>
>

Regards,

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