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Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz contract
Chris and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,
I didn't state any response on this thread was harsh in any way. Jefsey
Morfin did however. So perhaps you meant to respond to Jefsey's
response on this thread. See:
http://www.gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga/msg04272.html
I also see no good reason why any member of this forum should
consider relegation of any BoD member communicating with this forums
participants as an improvement or a special consideration in any way.
Veni's "acting like a politician" isn't really a concern or problem.
However acting like a bad politician, is. Hence in part, which I thought
was evident in my responses was clear, why I have along with others,
responded as I did.
kidsearch wrote:
> I don't think its that harsh Jeff. Yes, responses from board members could
> improve . . . a lot. With some of them any communication at all would be an
> improvement. At least Veni came onto the list. He is acting like a
> politician unfortuantely, but we can hope he grows out of it.
>
> Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
> http://icann.thingsthatjustpissmeoff.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Veni Markovski" <veni@xxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz
> contract
>
> > Veni and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> > stakeholders/uisers,
> >
> > Your response below is inaccurate, did not address the fact you did
> > not actually answer Danny's questions, and is also besides my point
> > as to Danny not looking for "Guidance". So again Veni, your
> > obviscating.
> > As such you have again demonstrated you are behaving very
> > unprofessionally
> > as a BoD member of ICANN and therefore should resign or be removed
> > as a BoD member of ICANN.
> >
> >
> >
> > Veni Markovski wrote:
> >
> > > At 01:37 AM 04.8.2006 '?.' -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > > > Danny was not asking for "Guidance".
> > >
> > > When people start to forget, it's always good to remind them, and
> > > luckily there are records of who said what in the mailing list. See
> > > below.
> > > So, to summarize:
> > > Danny asked me a question, to which I responded.
> > > I've asked Danny a question on why he is misusing private e-mails in
> > > a public mailing list, to which he still hasn't responded "Please
> > > stay focused on the real problem (which is of much greater import
> > > than your views on my netiquette)"., thus we have two facts: a) I've
> > > responded to his e-mail, and b) he hasn't said a word about his
> > > behaviour.
> > >
> > > veni
> > >
> > > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:00:22 -0700 (PDT)
> > > From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed
> > > .biz contract
> > > To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, Veni Markovski
> > > <veni@xxxxxxxx>,
> > > "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >
> > > Veni,
> > > []
> > > I have asked an ICANN Board member (yourself), in good
> > > faith, for guidance on how to best deal with a serious
> > > matter that now concerns four different registry
> > > operators. I look forward to your constructive
> > > remarks.
> > >
> > > to which I've responded:
> > >
> > > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:06:55 -0400
> > > To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, Veni Markovski
> > > <veni@xxxxxxxx>,
> > > "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > From: Veni Markovski <veni@xxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed
> > > .biz
> > > contract
> > >
> > > Danny,
> > > 1. The proper channel to ask ICANN questions about its activities, is
> > > through the Chair of the Board, or the President.
> > > 2. Asking individual directors for their "guidance" is not the right
> > > way to deal with an organization.
> > > 3. Your desire to look for guidance from individual directors is
> > > understandabel, as the history of ICANN is full with strong
> > > individuals, who may have been giving guidance to you before.
> > > 4. It's better for the broader Internet community to have a strong
> > > ICANN, than just strong individuals with desire to give guidance when
> > > asked.
> > > 5. As for your questions, see the minutes of our January meeting. And
> > > note - I do not make comments, or give the "guidance" you requested.
> > > Neither you should expect me to comment on this - if you need the
> > > comments, read point # 1 above.
> > >
> > > attached quote:
> > > http://www.icann.org/minutes/minutes-10jan06.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Regards,
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> > Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
> > very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
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> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
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> > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> >
Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
Abraham Lincoln
"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt
"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng. INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827
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