Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz contract

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I don't think its that harsh Jeff. Yes, responses from board members could
improve . . . a lot. With some of them any communication at all would be an
improvement. At least Veni came onto the list. He is acting like a
politician unfortuantely, but we can hope he grows out of it.

Chris McElroy aka NameCritic
http://icann.thingsthatjustpissmeoff.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Veni Markovski" <veni@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 5:36 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed .biz
contract


> Veni and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> stakeholders/uisers,
>
>   Your response below is inaccurate, did not address the fact you did
> not actually answer Danny's questions, and is also besides my point
> as to Danny not looking for "Guidance".  So again Veni, your
> obviscating.
> As such you have again demonstrated you are behaving very
> unprofessionally
> as a BoD member of ICANN and therefore should resign or be removed
> as a BoD member of ICANN.
>
>
>
> Veni Markovski wrote:
>
> >    At 01:37 AM 04.8.2006 '?.'  -0700, Jeff Williams wrote:
> > >   Danny was not asking for "Guidance".
> >
> > When people start to forget, it's always good to remind them, and
> > luckily there are records of who said what in the mailing list. See
> > below.
> > So, to summarize:
> > Danny asked me a question, to which I responded.
> > I've asked Danny a question on why he is misusing private e-mails in
> > a public mailing list, to which he still hasn't responded "Please
> > stay focused on the real problem (which is of much greater import
> > than your views on my netiquette)".,  thus we have two facts: a) I've
> > responded to his e-mail, and b) he hasn't said a word about his
> > behaviour.
> >
> > veni
> >
> > Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 21:00:22 -0700 (PDT)
> > From: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed
> > .biz  contract
> > To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, Veni Markovski
> > <veni@xxxxxxxx>,
> >          "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Veni,
> > []
> > I have asked an ICANN Board member (yourself), in good
> > faith, for guidance on how to best deal with a serious
> > matter that now concerns four different registry
> > operators.  I look forward to your constructive
> > remarks.
> >
> > to which I've responded:
> >
> > Date: Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:06:55 -0400
> > To: Danny Younger <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, Veni Markovski
> > <veni@xxxxxxxx>,
> >          "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > From: Veni Markovski <veni@xxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: [ga] FW: Fee for disproportionate deletes in proposed
> > .biz
> >     contract
> >
> > Danny,
> > 1. The proper channel to ask ICANN questions about its activities, is
> > through the Chair of the Board, or the President.
> > 2. Asking individual directors for their "guidance" is not the right
> > way to deal with an organization.
> > 3. Your desire to look for guidance from individual directors is
> > understandabel, as the history of ICANN is full with strong
> > individuals, who may have been giving guidance to you before.
> > 4. It's better for the broader Internet community to have a strong
> > ICANN, than just strong individuals with desire to give guidance when
> > asked.
> > 5. As for your questions, see the minutes of our January meeting. And
> > note - I do not make comments, or give the "guidance" you requested.
> > Neither you should expect me to comment on this - if you need the
> > comments, read point # 1 above.
> >
> > attached quote:
> > http://www.icann.org/minutes/minutes-10jan06.htm
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Regards,
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