Re: [ga] RE: IDNs & the GNSO New TLD PDP

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

This slowness and lack of follow through is reflective of a top down approach to doing what is best for ethnic/cultural and historical subsects. Someone must decide what is right. And then it must be agreed upon, and only then will it obtain the impetus and fervor that is required to achieve the objective.
  So far we have only seen benevolent philosophers champion such concepts, and of course the techies that love the challenge of making it workable.
   
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Elisabeth Porteneuve <Elisabeth.Porteneuve@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
  
Danny,

Thanks for spotting so many interesting documents.

Actually, MINC have been making a terrible noise about
their work on IDN Arabic tables, while Polish Registry
simply did the job, and published all tables thay have
been considering, from Polish (Latin with 7 diacritical
characters) to almost any alphabet-based language,
including Russian, Greec and Hebrew (in 2003 if I remember).

The reffered letter is 18 months old (July 2004).
One could expect MINC making some progress since then
and publishing some reports.

But I could not find any MINC tables on the IANA website 
http://www.iana.org/assignments/idn/registered.htm
(actually IANA IDN tables site is extremely difficult
to find, even with Google help !)

Best regards,
Elisabeth Porteneuve
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> Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:18:43 -0800 (PST)
> From: Danny Younger 
> Subject: [ga] RE: IDNs & the GNSO New TLD PDP
> To: Vint Cerf 
> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> Vint, you wrote:
> 
> "There are already several tables registered by IANA.
> There is nothing wrong with choosing different tables 
> - one simply needs clarity with regard to permitted
> registrations in any given TLD." 
> 
> I happened to note this correspondence from NASK to
> MINC on the topic of the IANA tables. I thought this
> might be of interest to you.
> 
> Dear Mr. Fattal,
> 
> In regards to your letter to ICANN and IANA regarding
> ?Arabic
> Language Table? posted by NASK, I would like to assure
> you, MINC
> and the Arabic community that our intention was never
> to cause any disrespect to any community in any way
> shape or form. Our intention was only to support not
> only Polish speaking citizens but also all the
> non-Polish speaking minorities living in Poland. 
> 
> The Decision to launch the Arabic domains registration
> under .pl along with all Latin based languages (i.e.
> German, Slovak, Czech, French, and Lithuanian);
> Cyrillic and Greek is based on the will to support the
> tradition and culture of local ethnic groups and
> minorities living in Poland which is our mission. NASK
> is an organization naturally sensitive and respectful
> to the needs of the Local Internet Communities. Our
> focus is set on full support for Polish language
> characters registration under .pl and the facilitation
> of the adoption of Polish script registration under
> other national DNS registries (ccTLDs) and global DNS
> registries (gTLDs).
> 
> We recognize MINC as the leading organization
> supporting and
> leading the development for deployment of
> Internationalized Domain Names and the
> Multilingualization of the Internet through local
> empowerment and the direct bottom up involvement from
> the local language communities all over the world.
> 
> NASK?s recognition of the right of local language
> communities
> to determine their own language tables and standards
> as your letter to ICANN and IANA had argued and
> stressed has led us to write to ICANN and IANA and
> request the withdrawal of our previous submission of
> not only the Arabic language table but also the Greek
> and Hebrew tables. Furthermore, we are also requesting
> that these posting on the ICANN and IANA websites be
> removed out of respect to these local language
> communities.
> 
> I hope that this good faith action on NASK?s part can
> provide
> the opportunity for cooperation between MINC and NASK
> regarding
> the deployment of Internationalized Domain Names
> towards a full
> Multilingual Internet and supporting your efforts for
> an Arabic
> language Domain Names System. I was pleased to hear
> your vision
> and action plan on how to deploy a Global Multilingual
> Internet
> through local empowerment during your presentation at
> the ICANN
> IDN workshop in Kuala Lumpur July 21st, 2004 which we
> at NASK
> fully agree with and support.
> 
> Yours sincerely,
> Andrzej Bartosiewicz
> Head of DNS Dept., NASK
> 
> http://minc.org/pr/Aug/LettertoMINC.pdf
> 
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