Re: [ga] unsubscribe ga

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Don and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

Don Brown wrote:

> The fact of the matter is that this list lost its value when ICANN
> adopted the so-called 'blueprint' or, to state it more appropriately
> I think, the 'divide and conquer doctrine.'

  I could not agree with you more here.  To the ICANN DNSO now
called the GNSO and ICANN BOD and staff members this forum
became a embarrassment to those few stakehholders/users.  As such
they decided without the vote or approval of this forums members,
to divorce themselves from this forum and it's reality of its members..

>
>
> The cohesiveness and participation is long destroyed in favor of the
> Dyson promoted ALAC, or whatever the exact acronym it may be these days.
> So, folks tried to start splinter groups, which are more easily
> controlled by the King, ICANN.  It's not difficult to understand or to
> realize the result.

  How nicely and rightly stated Don!  Well done...

>
>
> However, this list still has some value. For instance, I read about
> Eric, Hugh, Dr or whatever label he chooses to use, saving the
> proverbial Damsel in distress with his superlative Karate kick and
> then standing on the adversary's throat while negotiating options with
> the adversary's colleagues. Then, of course, I also read the posts
> from the spokesman of the 3-kalllion member strong group and from none
> other than the horse, itself.  What's a day without sunshine?

  Let the sunshine in!

>
>
> Comic relief? - sometimes and more times than not. Constructive and on
> topic - almost never.

  Well I disagree with you here..  But everyone has their opinion...

>
>
> John was much more realistic and accurate. Although, he was much less
> patient than I. However, in John's case, too, 'each to his own . . .'

John likes to bait, or at least that has been my and others observation...

>
>
> The sword cuts both ways.  You just can't choose the cut when it suits
> you - unless you are earnest in the attainment of hypocrisy.
> Although, I'd respect your choice, none the less.

I have never indicated in any way to attain hypocrisy in reality,
yet there are those that see the boogy man behind every rock and
tree.  But of course it takes all sorts to make up a world...

>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Friday, May 14, 2004, 8:14:34 PM, Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> JW> Eric, John and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> JW> stakeholders/users,
>
> JW>   I am sorry to read of John's irritation which to me seems terribly
> JW> unjustified.  However he is entitled to his opinion, such as it is...
>
> JW>   Some stakeholders/users are silent because they have little of
> JW> nothing to constructively offer.  Others are silent because of fear
> JW> of repercussions.  Yet still others are silent because of personnel
> JW> or business related reasons...  It is true that in some instances,
> JW> silence is golden.  I hearken to the old title, "Silence of the lambs"
> JW> as a significant reason why some wish others to be silent..  Perhaps
> JW> John is part of this illustrious group, judging from he comment
> JW> below...
>
> JW>   Criticizing without contribution is folly and a waste of time as well
> JW> as effort for the most part.  I am sorry John choose this approach..
>
> JW> Hugh Dierker wrote:
>
> >>   This is a Quasi governmental forum. That is how we do things here in
> >> the free world.
> >> We allow free enterprise to come in and captivate. But if you sit on
> >> your butt and fail to contribute or object you are as bad as the man
> >> cutting off a head. Do you realize that silence creates more injury
> >> than action?
> >> Mr. Palmer you only seem too criticize but not contribute, but that is
> >> ok.
> >> e
> >> John Palmer <jp@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Yes - and well he should - the only posts have been joe jobs and your
> >> off-topic nonsense.
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Hugh Dierker
> >> To: Dora Gerber
> >> Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 10:24 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ga] unsubscribe ga
> >>
> >>
> >> And well you should. People that know what is going on and sit and
> >> watch without input are cowardly.  The only bad things that happen are
> >> a result of folks like you that do nothing in the face of problems.
> >> Sleep well and good dreams.
> >> e
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> JW> Regards,
>
> JW> --
> JW> Jeffrey A. Williams
> JW> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
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> JW>     Pierre Abelard
>
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827