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Re: [ga] So, the way that ICANN handles legal objections to TLDS on its website is to delete them?
- To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk@xxxxxx>, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] So, the way that ICANN handles legal objections to TLDS on its website is to delete them?
- From: Randel H Hanes <hanes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2014 14:23:32 -0500
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You fellows are looking at this issue procedurally when it reality
is that a claimed copyright and trademark exists only within the
jurisdiction it was filed in.<br>
You have some protection with a domain name when the infringer exist
in the same country as you, but not the TLDs. ICANN evolved to work
without any one country telling it what it has to do.<br>
I feel for those this trauma has caused because of all their time
and investment, but ICANN has the power of emanate domain when it
comes to TLDs. In 1995, most would not have seen this coming, but as
the groups of Internet interests met and formed what became ICANN we
all saw that the frontier of wild TLDs were going to be tamed for
the good of universal uniformity.<br>
I can guess why there seems to be an apparent nonacceptance of
ICANN's function and power, so I encourage to embrace and blend into
the system and accomplish from within and stop beating a dead horse<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/18/2014 10:54 PM, Rubens Kuhl
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You are entitled to an opinion and to seek legal remedy based on
it, the problem is you suggested that you filed an objection and
it vanished, and it turns out you disagree with the objection
process requiring paying to the ADR and never filed one.
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<div>The problem with alternate TLD alleged rights is that people
might pay your claims with Monopoly money, as they belong to the
same realm… </div>
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<div>Rubens</div>
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<div>On Apr 19, 2014, at 12:36 AM, John Palmer <<a
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<div>So typical of the ICANN racket! You can’t even
file an objection without paying ransom money to
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<div>hand-picked cronies.</div>
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<div>Sorry – AWI has a legally protected claim on
.EARTH. ICANN and the applicants will soon be
receiving</div>
<div>formal notification of our intent to defend our
copyrighted directory property.</div>
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<div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 18, 2014 8:39 AM</div>
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<div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>
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<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ga] So, the way that
ICANN handles legal objections to TLDS on its
website is to delete them?</div>
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<div>On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:40 AM, John Palmer <<a
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<div>Over a year and a half ago, when the
objections period for new TLDs was open,
I filed a legal objection on</div>
<div>ICANN’s website to two applications
for the TLD “.EARTH” since these TLDs
are the property of my company</div>
<div>and we have been operating them since
1995 (and still are). </div>
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<div>When I look at the ICANN website,
under objections for the new TLDs, here:</div>
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title="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/odr/determination";
href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/odr/determination";>http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/odr/determination</a></div>
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<div>I see that they seemed to have
deleted the objections and never even
processed them. So, I guess the</div>
<div>objections process is just a scam.</div>
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<div>What type of objections your company filed ?
The objections, no matter the outcome or lack of
it, where published by the ADR providers.</div>
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<div>ICC:</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.iccwbo.org/Data/Documents/Buisness-Services/Dispute-Resolution-Services/Expertise/ICANN-New-gTLD-Dispute-Resolution/List-of-Pending-Cases/";>http://www.iccwbo.org/Data/Documents/Buisness-Services/Dispute-Resolution-Services/Expertise/ICANN-New-gTLD-Dispute-Resolution/List-of-Pending-Cases/</a></div>
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<div>WIPO:</div>
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href="http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/lro/";>http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/lro/</a></div>
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<div>ICDR:</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://go.adr.org/icanngtld";>http://go.adr.org/icanngtld</a></div>
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<div>I couldn’t find any objections to .earth on any
provider… note that filing an objection is not
just posting a comment, as you did here:</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://gtldcomment.icann.org/comments-feedback/applicationcomment/commentdetails/6237";>https://gtldcomment.icann.org/comments-feedback/applicationcomment/commentdetails/6237</a></div>
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<div>Filing an objection is actually following the
objection process, paying money to the ADR,
providing a lots of pages of reasoning… a comment
is just a comment. </div>
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<div>Rubens</div>
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