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Re: [ga] Scandal, Discussion and Argument

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  • Subject: Re: [ga] Scandal, Discussion and Argument
  • From: "Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 17:39:37 -0500 (GMT-05:00)

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<P>Matthew and all,</P>
<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>&nbsp; Part of you point is well taken here.&nbsp; State or local laws do 
not necessarly apply across jurisdictional</P>
<P>boundires, ergo across the whole of the Internet, nor IMO should they.&nbsp; 
In fact if you recall, I was at the</P>
<P>time you are referencing attempting to warn ICANN that US States and other 
countries equivalents were</P>
<P>in the process of legislating such Statutes.&nbsp; My State NOW has many 
such State Statutes as does</P>
<P>California and many other states.&nbsp; Where resaprocity applies in the US 
as well as in other non-US</P>
<P>jurisdictions and/or Trade Treaties have been amended/modified, or 
independently said other non-US</P>
<P>jurisdictions have mimicked or otherwise complemented such US Federal or 
State Statutes, or</P>
<P>local ordinances such as the UK in particular has to a significant degree, 
than your point is somewhat</P>
<P>muted or deluted accordingly.&nbsp; I have on numerous occasions posted URL 
references of such to</P>
<P>the GA for the forums information and hopefully same would take specific 
note accordingly.&nbsp; Seems</P>
<P>perhaps you have not fully done so.&nbsp; That's unfortunate. <ZZZIMG 
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<P>&nbsp;</P>
<P>P.S.&nbsp; I hope that the election in the UK is going well and meets with 
the desired requirements</P>
<P>of the citizens of the UK whomever the elected MP's and PM may be.&nbsp; 
Further I hope that</P>
<P>RBS has or will be far more careful with whom it enters into agreements with 
in the future</P>
<P>given some recent and very recent errors in judgment, See: <A 
href="http://www.wikio.co.uk/article/128519595";>http://www.wikio.co.uk/article/128519595</A></P>
<P>and <A 
href="http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/bank-of-scotland-biggest-victim-in-1-billion-scam/story-e6frg8zx-1225854834769";>http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/bank-of-scotland-biggest-victim-in-1-billion-scam/story-e6frg8zx-1225854834769</A>&nbsp;</P>
<P>I am sure you do as well.&nbsp; However as far back as 2002, I had been 
warning of RBS'es business </P>
<P>practices in a number of areas as had Mr. Markopolos.&nbsp; </P>
<P><BR><BR><BR>&nbsp;</P>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 0px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 
2px solid">-----Original Message----- <BR>From: Matthew Pemble 
<MATTHEW@xxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: May 6, 2010 1:51 AM <BR>To: "Jeffrey A. Williams" 
<JWKCKID1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Scandal, Discussion and Argument 
<BR><BR>Jeff,
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<P>&nbsp;I gleefully await his service in a court of proper jurisdiction and 
competence accordingly.&nbsp; </P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV><BR>You're right - I won't.&nbsp; A lawsuit over a difference of opinion? 
Even under the somewhat ridiculous English libel laws (which, actually, don't 
apply to me as I live in Scotland), I see no basis for a case and, even if 
there was one, why would I waste both of our time?<BR><BR>As to applicability 
of law and precedent (or did you actually mean "legal president"? In which 
case, you've lost me) - you may recall we had an off-list discussion a couple 
of years ago.&nbsp; You posted to the list about something that was wrong and 
claimed it to be illegal.&nbsp; I asked you for the statute reference not 
because I disbelieved you but because I am expected to know these things for 
the day job.&nbsp; You admitted that there was no statute.<BR><BR>My main issue 
with you is your naive insistence that your local law - be it state or federal 
- should apply across the internet.&nbsp; US Federal law and some state law 
does / should apply to ICANN, as a Californian non-profit corporation, but 
ICANN is not the sum of the internet.&nbsp; Also, I don't think that having 
dodgy DNS, however inopportune, is a criminal offence anywhere rational, as you 
regularly suggest.<BR><BR>Matthew<BR></DIV></DIV><BR>-- <BR>Matthew 
Pemble<BR>Technical Director, Idrach Ltd<BR><BR>Mobile: +44 (0) 7595 
652175<BR>Office: + 44 (0) 1324 820690<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY>

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