RE: [ga] Notice to Jeff Williams Re: GA list archives problems?

["Dominik Filipp" <dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx>]

Eric, Debbie,
 
it seems that Jeff's posting was banned as of 3 April, that is, 2 days
after the friendly warning sent in here. During 1-2 April the number of
Jeff's posts, however, did not exceed the daily limit. I am sorry but
this seems to me like a sort of revenge...
 
I would get rid of all this provision.
 
Dominik


________________________________

From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Dominik Filipp
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:41 PM
To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Joe Baptista; Jeffrey A. Williams
Cc: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ga] Notice to Jeff Williams Re: GA list archives problems?


Hi Debbie,
 
Yes, I know about the 10 posts sent during 31 March. I just think that
the warning could perhaps have been applied as of next day. On 31 March,
as you all (Eric and Joe) remember, there was a hot discussion over
domain tasting and we also were considering the limitation of the post
limit in certain circumstances. So I just supposed that a more tolerance
regarding this would be demonstrated in this special case. That is my
opinion, but I also understand your standpoint.
 
Dominik

________________________________

From: Debbie Garside [mailto:debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 4:16 PM
To: Dominik Filipp; 'Joe Baptista'; 'Jeffrey A. Williams'
Cc: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ga] Notice to Jeff Williams Re: GA list archives problems?


Hi Dominik
 
I am not sure that it is appropriate for me to discuss a third parties
postings on list.  However, as no guidance is available, I will respond
in this instance only.  Further questions should be directed to the
Chair.
 
On the 31st of March Jeff Williams posted 9 emails to the GA List prior
to my further friendly warning and one after - total 10 posts for 31st
March 2008.  That said, IMHO, Jeff had received several friendly
warnings on previous occasions and did not need a further warning before
sanctions were imposed.
 
Best regards
 
Debbie Garside
List Monitor


________________________________

        From: Dominik Filipp [mailto:dominik.filipp@xxxxxxxx] 
        Sent: 14 April 2008 10:22
        To: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Joe Baptista; Jeffrey A. Williams
        Cc: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [ga] Notice to Jeff Williams Re: GA list archives
problems?
        
        
        Dear Debbie,
         
        I have just reviewed the number of Jeff's posts since 31 March
where your friendly warning was sent to him. As of 1 April I have not
noticed any Jeff's excess of the 5 posts per day. In my understanding
this means he has accepted your warning and has been acting accordingly.
         
        Could you please explain this to me?
         
        Thank you
         
        Dominik
        
        
________________________________

        From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Debbie Garside
        Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2008 8:58 PM
        To: 'Joe Baptista'; 'Jeffrey A. Williams'
        Cc: hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: RE: [ga] Notice to Jeff Williams Re: GA list archives
problems?
        
        
        Dear Jeff
         
        
        Following the email from my colleague, I am writing with regard
to your suspension.  This was proposed by me in an email to both the
Chair and Joe Baptista (Co-List Monitor) on the 31st of March 2008. 
         
        The reason for proposing your suspension was that you had posted
in excess of the 5 posts per day limit and had received several friendly
warnings, both on list and off list, prior to my proposal to suspend
your posting rights.  Also, prior to my proposal to suspend your posting
rights, I had issued a further warning to the list that any further
flouting of the list rules in this regard would incur a suspension.  You
subsequently posted again.  
         
        The Chair agreed to my proposal for suspension, the co-List
Monitor also agreed and proposed that the suspension be for 8 weeks as
this was your second offence.  With all parties in agreement, the Chair
undertook to contact the List Manager and subsequently confirmed that
the suspension had been actioned.  
         
        My apologies for not notifying you.  I was unsure as to
procedures for notification and unaware that, as List Monitor, it was my
duty to inform you.  In future I will make sure that notice of
suspension is given to all parties concerned.
         
        I look forward to welcoming you back in the near future.
         
        Best regards
         
        Debbie
         


________________________________

                From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Joe Baptista
                Sent: 13 April 2008 14:14
                To: Jeffrey A. Williams
                Cc: debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx;
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [ga] Notice to Jeff Williams Re: GA list
archives problems?
                
                
                Hi Jeff:
                
                
                On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 11:54 PM, Jeffrey A. Williams
<jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
                

                        Debbie and Joe,
                        
                         Seems severa of my posts sense 04/04/08 that I
have
                        posted to the GA list are not bouncing back to
me nor
                        are appearing on the GA list archives.  Can you
tell
                        me why or what the problem is?


                I believe the reason why you are not able to post to the
GA list is because you have been suspended for 8 weeks.
                
                Debbie should have provided you with notice of this.
And you should of had the right to object.  Lately Debbie has been
acting independently of the list rules and the procedures we have
established with the chair for the processing of these issues - I'm not
sure why.
                
                Also my apologies for my delayed response to you.  I
expected Debbie to have taken the time to respond to you.  Since she has
failed to do this I will through this note ask her to provide you with a
proper response and explanation of her actions.
                
                Debbie?
                
                regards
                joe baptista
                
                 



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