AW: [council] Re: Suggested election time lines

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I understand the issues raised by the NCSG. However I'm opposed to postpone 
council chair elections. I'm also not a friend of mixing up competencies of 
different institutions (SG/constituency and council). My proposal (for this 
time) covered by the rules and bylaws:
 
- take option 1 of Stéphane's paper: this allows for 3 weeks more time of 
candidate nomination than option 2
- in case new councillors can't be seated in time let the incumbents vote
 
This discussion arises only from the requirement that new council members 
should be given a chance to vote and the time constraints between chair 
election and new council seating. To my knowledge it was not covered during the 
bylaws and rules of procedure review. It could be an agenda item for the SCI to 
find a viable solution for the future - if the council so wishes.
 
 
 
Kind regards
Wolf-Ulrich 


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        Hello - I can try to explain some of the issues. NCSG intends fully to 
comply with and meet all the mandated deadlines; however, the Council should 
know that we are probably laboring under greater pressure than most of the 
other groups. This is because the new NCSG Charter was just approved by the 
Board in Singapore, and we've also had a large number of new members (both 
directly into the SG and through the newly-approved Not for Profit Operational 
Concerns (NPOC) Constituency). We will also have to elect (or re-elect, as may 
happen) 4 Councilors, including transitioning from having 3 Board appointed 
Councilors to all Councilors being elected by the SG (i.e. under the approved 
Charter, elections for Council seats are SG-wide, not via Constituencies), 
which can happen only procedurally after the new Charter is formally approved 
and accepted by the SG membership. 


        Mind you, I'm not making an early excuse for delay - like I said, we 
(especially our SG Chair and Executive Committee) are working hard to make sure 
not only that all relevant time lines are met, but that the elections are 
sufficiently well-publicized so that we will have good candidates coming 
forward (from various geographical regions, as mandated by our Charter) and 
that all SG members (especially the newer ones) know about the elections and 
can participate fully. 


        Hopefully this explains some of the concerns that have been raised and 
gives the Council a sense of what we are having to do within NCSG. 


        Cheers 

        Mary   


        
        
        
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From: 

Adrian Kinderis <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

To: 

Stéphane Van Gelder<stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>, "Neuman, Jeff" 
<Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx> 

CC: 

Wendy Seltzer <wendy@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Council GNSO <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

Date: 

7/14/2011 5:59 PM 

Subject: 

RE: [council] Re: Suggested election time lines 


I agree with Jeff and SVG.

How typical of our GNSO/ ICANN psyche that we instantly look to move a deadline 
rather than address the issue of tardiness...

Adrian Kinderis


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Sent: Friday, 15 July 2011 7:42 AM
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Cc: Wendy Seltzer; Council GNSO
Subject: Re: [council] Re: Suggested election time lines


Agree with Jeff that extending is not an option. If SGs find they cannot elect 
their new reps in time for Dakar, then they should look to extend the terms of 
their own Councillors so as not to impact the bylaw-mandated leadership 
election timeline.

Thanks,

Stéphane

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Le 14 juil. 2011 à 21:09, "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :

> The election timelines are set forth in the Bylaws.  Given that we still have 
> 3 months until the annual meeting, shouldn't that be enough time to get 
> everything done?
>
> Jeffrey J. Neuman
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
> Please note new address:  21575 Ridgetop Circle, Sterling VA 20166    
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Wendy Seltzer
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 3:05 PM
> To: Stéphane Van Gelder
> Cc: Council GNSO
> Subject: Re: [council] Re: Suggested election time lines
>
>
> NCSG is also working on its Council elections.
>
> A third option would be to postpone our Council elections (and briefly
> extend the terms of current officers) if some SGs need a slightly longer
> window to complete their Councillor elections first.
>
> --Wendy
>
> On 07/14/2011 07:52 AM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
>> Thanks Wendy for your comments.
>>
>> Yes that is correct, we designed option 1 to address the points made at the 
>> previous election and allow for the new Council to elect its Chair.
>>
>> However, I think it's worth stressing that for this option to be viable, we 
>> need to be sure that all SGs that are due to replace Councillors will have 
>> done so in plenty of time for this vote to take place.
>>
>> So my message was also a request to you, as representatives of your groups, 
>> to let the Council leadership and secretariat know if your own individual 
>> elections would be done in time?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Stéphane
>>
>>
>>
>> Le 13 juil. 2011 à 18:34, Wendy Seltzer a écrit :
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for getting the conversation started Stéphane,
>>>
>>> Does the second, electronic, option assume that the voters would be the
>>> old Councillors, since the new ones will not be seated until the end of
>>> the AGM?  If so, I would strongly support option 1, to give the
>>> Councillors who will be serving under the chair an opportunity to vote
>>> in the Chair's election.
>>>
>>> --Wendy
>>>
>>> On 07/13/2011 12:17 PM, Stéphane Van Gelder wrote:
>>>> Councillors,
>>>>
>>>> As a follow-up to this, please see attached a slightly modified note. The 
>>>> change is just to clarify one of the election procedure scenarios.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Stéphane
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Le 11 juil. 2011 à 17:18, Stéphane Van Gelder a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Councillors,
>>>>> A t
>>>>> As the Dakar meeting looms, one of the items we must cover is the 
>>>>> elections of the next Council Chair (the VCs are house-specific and 
>>>>> therefore do not need to be determined here).
>>>>>
>>>>> You will remember that last year's elections gave rise to some debate, 
>>>>> and that the Council felt it would be useful to plan ahead a little more 
>>>>> for this year.
>>>>>
>>>>> To start this process along, I have been working with Glen to produce two 
>>>>> possible scenarios for running the elections. These are attached. My 
>>>>> thanks to Glen for her hard work on this.
>>>>>
>>>>> As you will see from the attached, the options we have looked at are to 
>>>>> try and address the wish that was expressed by some last year that it be 
>>>>> the new Council that elect the Chair. There are some scheduling issues to 
>>>>> address, and if the Council decides to elect its new Chair in Dakar, then 
>>>>> we will have to work closely with those SGs electing new Councillors to 
>>>>> ensure that those elections are done in plenty of time to allow for the 
>>>>> Chair election to happen.
>>>>>
>>>>> We also ask the question, if we have an election in Dakar (rather than 
>>>>> the 2nd option of an electronic ballot beforehand) of whether the vote 
>>>>> should be by open or secret ballot.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please let us have your comments on these proposals.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stéphane
>>>>>
>>>>> <GNSO Council Election Procedures for the GNSO Council Chair to be seated 
>>>>> in Dakar in October 2011.doc>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>