RE: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains February 1st 200 4:-(

[Nikolaj Nyholm <nikolajn@xxxxxxxxx>]

I fully support Jean-Michel's views. While we cannot speculate why Netsol
choses to stop supporting IDNs, VGRS confirmed yesterday that Netsol's
decision in no way impacts their support for IDN in .COM/.NET.

I further agree that PIR's decision is putting the industry in an extremely
bad light, and I suggest we in unison lobby both ICANN, PIR and the ISOC
board.
Could you kindly forward to the list the letter sent to PIR on behalf of
Japanese registrars?

/n

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Michel [mailto:jmbecar@xxxxxx] 
> Sent: 14. januar 2004 07:13
> To: Jean-Michel
> Cc: tbarrett@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Robert F. Connelly'; 'Registrars 
> Constituency'
> Subject: Re: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains 
> February 1st 2004:-(
> 
> 
> I would like to clarify the annoucement of Network Solution. 
> Network Solution stops reselling IDN doesn't mean that Verisign will 
> stop to manage IDN names. At least as far as we know.
> Looks like NSI is quiet annoying with the customers support 
> and all the 
> burden gives to them like the language barrier and the 
> difficulty of the 
> IDN market.
> 
> I don't really any good reason for Verisign to stop as the 
> IDN domains 
> represents a large amount of domains for them. and I don't either 
> understand the NSI solution except the one I just gave above. 
> Now we finally have all the standards and the technology to make them 
> alive and for our japanese customers it's a very good news they are 
> really looking forward to it.
> 
> Regards,
> Jean-Michel
> 
> Jean-Michel wrote:
> 
> > I don't think Verisign will ever cancel the IDN domains in .comm and
> > .net.
> > They successfully migrated them from RACE to punycode. So for that 
> > reason I would like to see PIR doing the same , so we stay 
> consistent 
> > with our customers and the domain industry image has a lot to loose 
> > with this PIR decision.
> >
> > Yesterday, I sent an official letter to Paul Twomey cc to PIR asking
> > them to hold off the deletion and to discuss this issue. 
> That letter 
> > was the result of a meeting here in Tokyo of ALL registrars 
> concerned 
> > with that decision and also some big resellers. And we are 
> all agree 
> > that will be very bad for our industry and market.
> > So I would like to see like Bob already tried to  get from 
> this list 
> > more reaction and I was hoping the RC would put the 
> pressure on PIR in 
> > order to migrate those legacy domains to the new standards, 
> because it 
> > feasible Verisign did it :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Jean-Michel
> >
> > tbarrett wrote:
> >
> >> Bob,
> >>  
> >> This is worth discussing, since we are receiving inquiries about
> >> in-coming transfers of com/net IDN domains.
> >>  
> >> Is there any reason a registrant should transfer their existing
> >> domains to another registrar or will they end up being 
> cancelled by 
> >> Verisign-GRS in a few months anyway?
> >>  
> >> Tom
> >>  
> >>  
> >>
> >>     -----Original Message-----
> >>     *From:* owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>     [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of 
> *Robert F.
> >>     Connelly
> >>     *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2004 8:45 PM
> >>     *To:* Registrars Constituency
> >>     *Cc:* David W. Maher; David W. Maher; Bruce Beckwith
> >>     *Subject:* [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org 
> domains February
> >>     1st 2004:-(
> >>     *Importance:* High
> >>
> >>     Dear Registrars:
> >>
> >>     [This is an update:  Updated items in square brackets.]
> >>
> >>     [Excom has requested a teleconference between registrars and 
> >> PIR.]
> >>
> >>     [Netsol has posted a note saying that they will not continue to
> >>     support IDNs in .com and .net.  See note, attached at 
> the end of
> >>     this posting. Verisign Japan has made a simper posting.]
> >>
> >>     You may wish for me to take this thread to a separate list.
> >>
> >>     On or about 23 December 2003, PIR announced on their web site
> >>     their intention to delete all idn.org domains which were in the
> >>     domains they migrated from Verisign.  I am told that it was not
> >>     announced in the form of an Email to registrars.  I know that I
> >>     was advised by telephone just before Christmas.  The 
> announcement
> >>     says that PIR will delete all RACE encoded .org domains --
> >>     bq--xxxxxxx.org -- on 1 February 2004.   Here is the URL:
> >>
> >>             
> >> 
> http://www.pir.org/registrars/registrar_relations/announcements/index
> >> _html
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>     [The above web site available only from registered IP address
> >>     using ID and password.]
> >>
> >>     The Registrars in Japan are justly concerned about such an
> >>     eventuality.  A concerted action by registrars is in 
> the making. 
> >>     Unfortunately, December 23rd was a holiday, the Emperor's
> >>     Birthday, and the 26th was the last day of business until 5
> >>     January.  It has taken a few days for the realization 
> to hit home,
> >>     but hit it has, and hard!!!
> >>
> >>     I think I remember that Register.com, Tucows, perhaps eNom and
> >>     other registrars not domiciled in Japan also made registrations
> >>     during the so called "test bed" landrush starting 9 November
> >>     2000.  Was Netaka a registrar at that time, also?  I 
> think some of
> >>     you also made registrations in Korean and Traditional and
> >>     Simplified Chinese.  All of these .org domains are 
> scheduled for
> >>     the guillotine in 30 days;-(
> >>
> >>     Question:  Is this matter of sufficient general concern to the
> >>     Consistency to vet the issue on this List? Or should 
> we create a
> >>     separate list?
> >>
> >>     Regards, BobC, speaking with my PSI-Japan, Inc. hat on;-}
> >>
> >>     > Dear Valued Partner,
> >>     >
> >>     > We regret to inform you that Network Solutions(r) 
> will no longer
> >>     provide
> >>     > multilingual domain name registration services or host
> >>     multilingual domain
> >>     > names as of February 28, 2004. Domain name registrations and
> >>     services not
> >>     > affiliated with multilingual domain names will not 
> be affected.
> >>     >
> >>     > The .org registry, Public Interest Registry, has 
> also announced
> >>     that it will
> >>     > be deleting legacy multilingual domain names, which are RACE
> >>     encoded, from
> >>     > its registry database on February 1, 2004. Network Solutions
> >> will be
> >>     > deleting them from our systems on that date as well.
> >>     >
> >>     > If you wish to continue any of your current .com and .net
> >>     multilingual
> >>     > domain name registrations and related services, you 
> will need to
> >>     initiate a
> >>     > change of registrar for those .com and .net 
> multilingual domain 
> >> name
> >>     > registrations in your wholesale account to a registrar that
> >>     provides and
> >>     > will host multilingual domain names (MDNs).  You 
> must transfer
> >>     your .com and
> >>     > .net multilingual domain name(s) and related 
> services to another
> >>     provider
> >>     > prior to February 28, 2004 to avoid the deletion of your .com
> >>     and .net
> >>     > multilingual domain name registration(s) and related 
> services.
> >>     >
> >>     > The existing term of your domain name registration 
> will not be
> >>     affected by
> >>     > this change as long as you transfer your multilingual domain
> >>     name(s) prior
> >>     > to February 28, 2004. All .org multilingual domain 
> names will be
> >>     deleted out
> >>     > of our system February 1, 2004, and .com and .net 
> domain names
> >>     will be
> >>     > deleted February 28, 2004.
> >>     >
> >>     > We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. 
> If you have
> >>     any questions
> >>     > or concerns regarding your multilingual domain name
> >>     registration(s), please
> >>     > contact partnerprogram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
> >>     >
> >>     > You are a valued Partner and we appreciate your 
> allowing Network
> >>     Solutions
> >>     > to provide you with domain name registration services.
> >>     >
> >>     > Sincerely,
> >>     >
> >>     > The Network Solutions(r) Partner Program
> >>     >
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