RE: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains February 1st 200 4:-(

["Robert F. Connelly" <rconnell@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

At 12:33 AM 1/14/04, Nikolaj Nyholm wrote:
> I fully support Jean-Michel's views. While we cannot speculate why Netsol
> choses to stop supporting IDNs, VGRS confirmed yesterday that Netsol's
> decision in no way impacts their support for IDN in .COM/.NET.
>
> I further agree that PIR's decision is putting the industry in an extremely
> bad light, and I suggest we in unison lobby both ICANN, PIR and the ISOC
> board.
> Could you kindly forward to the list the letter sent to PIR on behalf of
> Japanese registrars?
>
> /n
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jean-Michel [mailto:jmbecar@xxxxxx]
> > Sent: 14. januar 2004 07:13
> > To: Jean-Michel
> > Cc: tbarrett@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Robert F. Connelly'; 'Registrars
> > Constituency'
> > Subject: Re: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains
> > February 1st 2004:-(
> >
> >
> > I would like to clarify the annoucement of Network Solution.
> > Network Solution stops reselling IDN doesn't mean that Verisign will
> > stop to manage IDN names. At least as far as we know.
> > Looks like NSI is quiet annoying with the customers support
> > and all the
> > burden gives to them like the language barrier and the
> > difficulty of the
> > IDN market.
> >
> > I don't really any good reason for Verisign to stop as the
> > IDN domains
> > represents a large amount of domains for them. and I don't either
> > understand the NSI solution except the one I just gave above.
> > Now we finally have all the standards and the technology to make them
> > alive and for our japanese customers it's a very good news they are
> > really looking forward to it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jean-Michel
> >
> > Jean-Michel wrote:
> >
> > > I don't think Verisign will ever cancel the IDN domains in .comm and
> > > .net.
> > > They successfully migrated them from RACE to punycode. So for that
> > > reason I would like to see PIR doing the same , so we stay
> > consistent
> > > with our customers and the domain industry image has a lot to loose
> > > with this PIR decision.
> > >
> > > Yesterday, I sent an official letter to Paul Twomey cc to PIR asking
> > > them to hold off the deletion and to discuss this issue.
> > That letter
> > > was the result of a meeting here in Tokyo of ALL registrars
> > concerned
> > > with that decision and also some big resellers. And we are
> > all agree
> > > that will be very bad for our industry and market.
> > > So I would like to see like Bob already tried to  get from
> > this list
> > > more reaction and I was hoping the RC would put the
> > pressure on PIR in
> > > order to migrate those legacy domains to the new standards,
> > because it
> > > feasible Verisign did it :-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Jean-Michel
> > >
> > > tbarrett wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bob,
> > >>
> > >> This is worth discussing, since we are receiving inquiries about
> > >> in-coming transfers of com/net IDN domains.
> > >>
> > >> Is there any reason a registrant should transfer their existing
> > >> domains to another registrar or will they end up being
> > cancelled by
> > >> Verisign-GRS in a few months anyway?
> > >>
> > >> Tom
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>     -----Original Message-----
> > >>     *From:* owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >>     [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
> > *Robert F.
> > >>     Connelly
> > >>     *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2004 8:45 PM
> > >>     *To:* Registrars Constituency
> > >>     *Cc:* David W. Maher; David W. Maher; Bruce Beckwith
> > >>     *Subject:* [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org
> > domains February
> > >>     1st 2004:-(
> > >>     *Importance:* High
> > >>
> > >>     Dear Registrars:
> > >>
> > >>     [This is an update:  Updated items in square brackets.]
> > >>
> > >>     [Excom has requested a teleconference between registrars and
> > >> PIR.]
> > >>
> > >>     [Netsol has posted a note saying that they will not continue to
> > >>     support IDNs in .com and .net.  See note, attached at
> > the end of
> > >>     this posting. Verisign Japan has made a simper posting.]
> > >>
> > >>     You may wish for me to take this thread to a separate list.
> > >>
> > >>     On or about 23 December 2003, PIR announced on their web site
> > >>     their intention to delete all idn.org domains which were in the
> > >>     domains they migrated from Verisign.  I am told that it was not
> > >>     announced in the form of an Email to registrars.  I know that I
> > >>     was advised by telephone just before Christmas.  The
> > announcement
> > >>     says that PIR will delete all RACE encoded .org domains --
> > >>     bq--xxxxxxx.org -- on 1 February 2004.   Here is the URL:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > http://www.pir.org/registrars/registrar_relations/announcements/index
> > >> _html
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>     [The above web site available only from registered IP address
> > >>     using ID and password.]
> > >>
> > >>     The Registrars in Japan are justly concerned about such an
> > >>     eventuality.  A concerted action by registrars is in
> > the making.
> > >>     Unfortunately, December 23rd was a holiday, the Emperor's
> > >>     Birthday, and the 26th was the last day of business until 5
> > >>     January.  It has taken a few days for the realization
> > to hit home,
> > >>     but hit it has, and hard!!!
> > >>
> > >>     I think I remember that Register.com, Tucows, perhaps eNom and
> > >>     other registrars not domiciled in Japan also made registrations
> > >>     during the so called "test bed" landrush starting 9 November
> > >>     2000.  Was Netaka a registrar at that time, also?  I
> > think some of
> > >>     you also made registrations in Korean and Traditional and
> > >>     Simplified Chinese.  All of these .org domains are
> > scheduled for
> > >>     the guillotine in 30 days;-(
> > >>
> > >>     Question:  Is this matter of sufficient general concern to the
> > >>     Consistency to vet the issue on this List? Or should
> > we create a
> > >>     separate list?
> > >>
> > >>     Regards, BobC, speaking with my PSI-Japan, Inc. hat on;-}
> > >>
> > >>     > Dear Valued Partner,
> > >>     >
> > >>     > We regret to inform you that Network Solutions(r)
> > will no longer
> > >>     provide
> > >>     > multilingual domain name registration services or host
> > >>     multilingual domain
> > >>     > names as of February 28, 2004. Domain name registrations and
> > >>     services not
> > >>     > affiliated with multilingual domain names will not
> > be affected.
> > >>     >
> > >>     > The .org registry, Public Interest Registry, has
> > also announced
> > >>     that it will
> > >>     > be deleting legacy multilingual domain names, which are RACE
> > >>     encoded, from
> > >>     > its registry database on February 1, 2004. Network Solutions
> > >> will be
> > >>     > deleting them from our systems on that date as well.
> > >>     >
> > >>     > If you wish to continue any of your current .com and .net
> > >>     multilingual
> > >>     > domain name registrations and related services, you
> > will need to
> > >>     initiate a
> > >>     > change of registrar for those .com and .net
> > multilingual domain
> > >> name
> > >>     > registrations in your wholesale account to a registrar that
> > >>     provides and
> > >>     > will host multilingual domain names (MDNs).  You
> > must transfer
> > >>     your .com and
> > >>     > .net multilingual domain name(s) and related
> > services to another
> > >>     provider
> > >>     > prior to February 28, 2004 to avoid the deletion of your .com
> > >>     and .net
> > >>     > multilingual domain name registration(s) and related
> > services.
> > >>     >
> > >>     > The existing term of your domain name registration
> > will not be
> > >>     affected by
> > >>     > this change as long as you transfer your multilingual domain
> > >>     name(s) prior
> > >>     > to February 28, 2004. All .org multilingual domain
> > names will be
> > >>     deleted out
> > >>     > of our system February 1, 2004, and .com and .net
> > domain names
> > >>     will be
> > >>     > deleted February 28, 2004.
> > >>     >
> > >>     > We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
> > If you have
> > >>     any questions
> > >>     > or concerns regarding your multilingual domain name
> > >>     registration(s), please
> > >>     > contact partnerprogram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.
> > >>     >
> > >>     > You are a valued Partner and we appreciate your
> > allowing Network
> > >>     Solutions
> > >>     > to provide you with domain name registration services.
> > >>     >
> > >>     > Sincerely,
> > >>     >
> > >>     > The Network Solutions(r) Partner Program
> > >>     >
> > >>     > (c) Copyright 2003 Network Solutions, LLC. All
> > rights reserved.
> > >>     --
> > >>
> > >>     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> > >>     if you don't start on time!"
> > >>
> > >
> >