Re: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains February 1st 200 4:-(
Dear all, Please find attach the letter we are sending to the ICANN board while we are trying to set up a meeting with PIR. But as Michael said in his previous email let's wait and see what will happen in the coming days and I guess something good will. I don't see how PIR can delete those names without any regret :-) Regards, Jean-Michel Nikolaj Nyholm wrote: >I fully support Jean-Michel's views. While we cannot speculate why Netsol >choses to stop supporting IDNs, VGRS confirmed yesterday that Netsol's >decision in no way impacts their support for IDN in .COM/.NET. > >I further agree that PIR's decision is putting the industry in an extremely >bad light, and I suggest we in unison lobby both ICANN, PIR and the ISOC >board. >Could you kindly forward to the list the letter sent to PIR on behalf of >Japanese registrars? > >/n > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jean-Michel [mailto:jmbecar@xxxxxx] >>Sent: 14. januar 2004 07:13 >>To: Jean-Michel >>Cc: tbarrett@xxxxxxxxxxx; 'Robert F. Connelly'; 'Registrars >>Constituency' >>Subject: Re: [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org domains >>February 1st 2004:-( >> >> >>I would like to clarify the annoucement of Network Solution. >>Network Solution stops reselling IDN doesn't mean that Verisign will >>stop to manage IDN names. At least as far as we know. >>Looks like NSI is quiet annoying with the customers support >>and all the >>burden gives to them like the language barrier and the >>difficulty of the >>IDN market. >> >>I don't really any good reason for Verisign to stop as the >>IDN domains >>represents a large amount of domains for them. and I don't either >>understand the NSI solution except the one I just gave above. >>Now we finally have all the standards and the technology to make them >>alive and for our japanese customers it's a very good news they are >>really looking forward to it. >> >>Regards, >>Jean-Michel >> >>Jean-Michel wrote: >> >> >> >>>I don't think Verisign will ever cancel the IDN domains in .comm and >>>.net. >>>They successfully migrated them from RACE to punycode. So for that >>>reason I would like to see PIR doing the same , so we stay >>> >>> >>consistent >> >> >>>with our customers and the domain industry image has a lot to loose >>>with this PIR decision. >>> >>>Yesterday, I sent an official letter to Paul Twomey cc to PIR asking >>>them to hold off the deletion and to discuss this issue. >>> >>> >>That letter >> >> >>>was the result of a meeting here in Tokyo of ALL registrars >>> >>> >>concerned >> >> >>>with that decision and also some big resellers. And we are >>> >>> >>all agree >> >> >>>that will be very bad for our industry and market. >>>So I would like to see like Bob already tried to get from >>> >>> >>this list >> >> >>>more reaction and I was hoping the RC would put the >>> >>> >>pressure on PIR in >> >> >>>order to migrate those legacy domains to the new standards, >>> >>> >>because it >> >> >>>feasible Verisign did it :-) >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Jean-Michel >>> >>>tbarrett wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Bob, >>>> >>>>This is worth discussing, since we are receiving inquiries about >>>>in-coming transfers of com/net IDN domains. >>>> >>>>Is there any reason a registrant should transfer their existing >>>>domains to another registrar or will they end up being >>>> >>>> >>cancelled by >> >> >>>>Verisign-GRS in a few months anyway? >>>> >>>>Tom >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> *From:* owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> [mailto:owner-registrars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of >>>> >>>> >>*Robert F. >> >> >>>> Connelly >>>> *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2004 8:45 PM >>>> *To:* Registrars Constituency >>>> *Cc:* David W. Maher; David W. Maher; Bruce Beckwith >>>> *Subject:* [registrars] Deletion of all IDN.org >>>> >>>> >>domains February >> >> >>>> 1st 2004:-( >>>> *Importance:* High >>>> >>>> Dear Registrars: >>>> >>>> [This is an update: Updated items in square brackets.] >>>> >>>> [Excom has requested a teleconference between registrars and >>>>PIR.] >>>> >>>> [Netsol has posted a note saying that they will not continue to >>>> support IDNs in .com and .net. See note, attached at >>>> >>>> >>the end of >> >> >>>> this posting. Verisign Japan has made a simper posting.] >>>> >>>> You may wish for me to take this thread to a separate list. >>>> >>>> On or about 23 December 2003, PIR announced on their web site >>>> their intention to delete all idn.org domains which were in the >>>> domains they migrated from Verisign. I am told that it was not >>>> announced in the form of an Email to registrars. I know that I >>>> was advised by telephone just before Christmas. The >>>> >>>> >>announcement >> >> >>>> says that PIR will delete all RACE encoded .org domains -- >>>> bq--xxxxxxx.org -- on 1 February 2004. Here is the URL: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>http://www.pir.org/registrars/registrar_relations/announcements/index >> >> >>>>_html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [The above web site available only from registered IP address >>>> using ID and password.] >>>> >>>> The Registrars in Japan are justly concerned about such an >>>> eventuality. A concerted action by registrars is in >>>> >>>> >>the making. >> >> >>>> Unfortunately, December 23rd was a holiday, the Emperor's >>>> Birthday, and the 26th was the last day of business until 5 >>>> January. It has taken a few days for the realization >>>> >>>> >>to hit home, >> >> >>>> but hit it has, and hard!!! >>>> >>>> I think I remember that Register.com, Tucows, perhaps eNom and >>>> other registrars not domiciled in Japan also made registrations >>>> during the so called "test bed" landrush starting 9 November >>>> 2000. Was Netaka a registrar at that time, also? I >>>> >>>> >>think some of >> >> >>>> you also made registrations in Korean and Traditional and >>>> Simplified Chinese. All of these .org domains are >>>> >>>> >>scheduled for >> >> >>>> the guillotine in 30 days;-( >>>> >>>> Question: Is this matter of sufficient general concern to the >>>> Consistency to vet the issue on this List? Or should >>>> >>>> >>we create a >> >> >>>> separate list? >>>> >>>> Regards, BobC, speaking with my PSI-Japan, Inc. hat on;-} >>>> >>>> > Dear Valued Partner, >>>> > >>>> > We regret to inform you that Network Solutions(r) >>>> >>>> >>will no longer >> >> >>>> provide >>>> > multilingual domain name registration services or host >>>> multilingual domain >>>> > names as of February 28, 2004. Domain name registrations and >>>> services not >>>> > affiliated with multilingual domain names will not >>>> >>>> >>be affected. >> >> >>>> > >>>> > The .org registry, Public Interest Registry, has >>>> >>>> >>also announced >> >> >>>> that it will >>>> > be deleting legacy multilingual domain names, which are RACE >>>> encoded, from >>>> > its registry database on February 1, 2004. Network Solutions >>>>will be >>>> > deleting them from our systems on that date as well. >>>> > >>>> > If you wish to continue any of your current .com and .net >>>> multilingual >>>> > domain name registrations and related services, you >>>> >>>> >>will need to >> >> >>>> initiate a >>>> > change of registrar for those .com and .net >>>> >>>> >>multilingual domain >> >> >>>>name >>>> > registrations in your wholesale account to a registrar that >>>> provides and >>>> > will host multilingual domain names (MDNs). You >>>> >>>> >>must transfer >> >> >>>> your .com and >>>> > .net multilingual domain name(s) and related >>>> >>>> >>services to another >> >> >>>> provider >>>> > prior to February 28, 2004 to avoid the deletion of your .com >>>> and .net >>>> > multilingual domain name registration(s) and related >>>> >>>> >>services. >> >> >>>> > >>>> > The existing term of your domain name registration >>>> >>>> >>will not be >> >> >>>> affected by >>>> > this change as long as you transfer your multilingual domain >>>> name(s) prior >>>> > to February 28, 2004. All .org multilingual domain >>>> >>>> >>names will be >> >> >>>> deleted out >>>> > of our system February 1, 2004, and .com and .net >>>> >>>> >>domain names >> >> >>>> will be >>>> > deleted February 28, 2004. >>>> > >>>> > We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. >>>> >>>> >>If you have >> >> >>>> any questions >>>> > or concerns regarding your multilingual domain name >>>> registration(s), please >>>> > contact partnerprogram@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx. >>>> > >>>> > You are a valued Partner and we appreciate your >>>> >>>> >>allowing Network >> >> >>>> Solutions >>>> > to provide you with domain name registration services. >>>> > >>>> > Sincerely, >>>> > >>>> > The Network Solutions(r) Partner Program >>>> > >>>> > (c) Copyright 2003 Network Solutions, LLC. All >>>> >>>> >>rights reserved. >> >> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >>>> "It doesn't do any good to run >>>> if you don't start on time!" >>>> >>>> >>>> Attachment:
Japan_registrars_letter_to_ICANN.doc
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