Re: [ga] RE: Registrants Constituency

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Roberto, Karl and all,

  I disagree Roberto.  It is not a matter of opportunity as you
contend/state below in response to Karl.  It is a matter of
willingness to commit and ability to commit on the part of
ICANN bod and staff members.

  The ability is available if only ICANN would demonstrate
the willingness to commit to recognizing that "Ability" is
avaliable.

  Individual representation by "users" and "Registrants" outside
of the GNSO is necessary, prudent, and required under the
Mou.  Failure here, is not a viable or legal option and is
essential to the stability of the DNS as well as the confidence
of any and all stakeholders as well as the economies in which
the participate which has again been negatively demonstrated
with the "RegistryFly" disaster and/or debacle...  And may
very soon be demonstrated again negitively as Go Daddy seems
also to becomming another mess a la "RegistryFly"...

Roberto Gaetano wrote:

> Karl,
>
> Just to clarify my point.
> I am not arguing that there should not be a place in the GNSO for "normal"
> users (i.e. non-registrants). I am only saying that if we have already
> tremendous problems in building a presence for registrants, it might be a
> useless waste of resources to try to get to the wider objective (for the
> time being).
> If you want to put it this way, it is not a matter of principle, it is a
> matter of opportunity.
>
> Regards,
> Roberto
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Karl Auerbach [mailto:karl@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: 05 March 2007 11:35
> > To: Roberto Gaetano
> > Cc: 'Danny Younger'; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ga] RE: Registrants Constituency
> >
> > Roberto Gaetano wrote:
> >
> > > On one hand, the voice of the registrants in the GNSO (and
> > I want to
> > > stress "registrants" vs. "users", simply because past
> > experience has
> > > shown that "individual users" will not fly).
> >
> > I don't agree.
> >
> > The intellectual property industry gets a very big seat in
> > ICANN but mere possession of a trademark has nothing to do
> > with whether the holder of the mark has acquired a domain name or not.
> >
> > Normal internet users - you and I - are just as affected by
> > domain names as is the owner of a trademark.  Just like a
> > trademark, our names can be transgressed, our reputations can
> > be besmirched and diluted.  The only difference is that that
> > we are flesh and blood people rather than some legal
> > abstraction in the form of a corporate owner of a trademark.
> >
> > So why do the trademark owners get the ICANN red carpet
> > treatment and the individual users of the internet get the shaft?
> >
> > Why are our needs written off as "will not fly" while ICANN
> > accepts the assertions of the intellectual property
> > protection industry without question?
> >
> > Vint Cerf likes to say "The Internet is for Everyone".  Seems
> > that that phrase falls flat in the world of ICANN.
> >
> > ICANN is incorporated as a "public benefit" corporation.  It
> > is inconsistent with its legal status for ICANN to exclude
> > the public from its decision making processes, while at the
> > same time elevating private commercial interests.
> >
> >               --karl--

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