Re: [ga] price policy

["Prophet Partners Inc." <Domains@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Tom,

>From my experience receiving spam and viewing email headers, most of it
either originates from drone computers that have been hijacked by a trojan
or has a phony header. Spammers however do register domains and include
links to those domains in the body of their messages. It is my belief that
these destination domains are used by spammers for very short periods of
time and are considered by them to be disposable. Is there any evidence that
spammers participate in the 5-day grace period for deletes? That would be
another reason to close or otherwise limit the 5-day grace period loophole.

Sincerely,
Ted
Prophet Partners Inc.
http://www.ProphetPartners.com
http://www.Premium-Domain-Names.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Barrett - EnCirca" <tbarrett@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Veni Markovski'" <veni@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: [ga] price policy



Veni,

It would be an interesting study to determine the percentage of spam where
spammers are using their own paid domains versus domains that belong to
others or domains that were obtained using fraudulent credit card data.  I
suspect a large percentage of spam uses domains that the spammer did not pay
for, making the price of domains a moot point.

In any case, I agree the bigger issue is whether this should be within the
scope of ICANN's activities.

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Veni Markovski
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 5:36 PM
To: Tim Ruiz; Veni Markovski
Cc: Prophet Partners Inc.; ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ga] price policy

When someone is making a point, and this someone comes from a respected
company that has a problem, then I listen.
The observatoins show that spammers use most of the time domain names which
are cheap, rather than domain names which are expensive. While your
calculation may be right - I don't know that - the observations are clear.
Note that I am not taking a side.

I'd say that it's not the same if someone buys 1 million domain names at $ 1
each, or at $ 6 each.
But in anycase - the bigger point is if ICANN should regulate or not. I
asked Karl similar question, but haven't heard from him.

veni

At 02:22 PM 10.10.2006 '?.'ЪTЖ  -0700, Tim Ruiz wrote:
>Veni,
>
>I didn't take Ted's comment as comparing spam to murders. I understood
>him to be referring to the desired result - the likelihood that a floor
>price on domain names will reduce spam.
>
>But I do think your analogy to junk mail - spam through the post - is a
>bad analogy. A spammer will pay once for a domain name (figuring they
>cannot use it beyond a year, likely a lot less) and the cost is spread
>out over millions of pieces of spam. So a floor price on a domain name
>is going to increase their costs by a very tiny amount per peice.
>
>Tim


Sincerely,
Veni Markovski
http://www.veni.com

check also my blog:
http://blog.veni.com