Re: [ga] ICANN Employment Policies and Procedures

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dr. Dierker and all,

  Yes for a non Profit company that is a Public trust many of these
expenses are very high and some are ridiculous.  For a for
Profit company even some of these expenses would never or
rarely be allowed.  For example, in my company as an officer
and Sr. management member, I am in advance, allowed $30k/yr
for travel expenses.  If I believe I need to exceed that amount,
I have to have both the Bod's and the CFO's approval in
advance.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    Thank you,
>   That is just hillarious. I want a job now.
>
>   e
>
> "Prophet Partners Inc." <Domains@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>           Hi Eric,
>
>   According to ICANN Employment Policies and Procedures dated November
> 1, 1999, the employee limitation on accepting / giving gifts is:
>
>   7. Accepting or seeking anything of more than nominal value from a
> customer or supplier without the advance approval of management, or
> giving a gift to a customer or supplier without management approval,
> except for certain promotional "premiums" (such as T-shirts or coffee
> mugs) imprinted with the ICANN logo or information;
>
>   Complete ICANN Employment Policies and Procedures dated November 1,
> 1999 (some sections have been revised)
>
> http://www.icann.org/legal/auerbach-v-icann/icann-employment-policies-02aug02.pdf
>
>   Fraud
>
> http://view.samurajdata.se/psview.php?id=e6a603a2&page=22&size=full
>
>   Note than these are only ICANN's Employment Policies and Procedures.
> Whether the rules are enforced or not is another matter.
>
>   These documents certainly deserve more scrutiny, including sections
> such as:
>
>   Business Expenses
>   http://view.samurajdata.se/psview.php?id=e6a603a2&page=4&size=full
>   and Conflicts of Interest
>   http://view.samurajdata.se/psview.php?id=e6a603a2&page=10&size=full
>
>   "Reimbursement of expenses of the President requires approval of the
> Board. The Vice-President and General Counsel may authorize payment to
> the President of an advance, not to exceed US $20,000 at any time,
> toward expenses already incurred by the President but not yet
> authorized by the Board, with the expenses to be later approved by the
> Board (or an authorized Committee of the Board)." What's the point of
> setting a limit, if the value is an astronomical figure. With a
> $20,000 limit on travel expenses, ICANN might as well eliminate the
> price cap as they are trying to do with the proposed .biz/.info/.org
> registry agreements.
>
>
>   "Reimbursement of business class fares is authorized for airline
> trips of greater than 5 hours duration." is overly generous and a
> waste of money. If employees want business class fares, they should
> pay the difference out of their own pocket.
>
>   Sincerely,
>   Ted
>   Prophet Partners Inc.
>   http://www.ProphetPartners.com
>   http://www.Premium-Domain-Names.com
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Hugh Dierker
>   To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>   Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 9:37 AM
>   Subject: Re: [ga] Re: Performance of ICANN Staff as Measured by
> ICANN's Core Values
>
>
>   What is the maximum size of a gift to a staff member that does not
> need to be reported?  Also I would like to know the benefits provided
> to staff and the BoD.
>   Anyone know?
>
>   e
>
> Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@xxxxxx> wrote:
>   On Thu, Sep 14, 2006 at 06:24:31AM -0400,
> Prophet Partners Inc. wrote
> a message of 199 lines which said:
>
> > that is the way things usually work in the real world.
> ...
> > Those who do their jobs poorly get demoted, cuts in pay or the pink
> > slip.
>
> This is not "the real world", it is an extremely US-centric view of
> human resources management. In many countries, the real world behaves
> differently.
>
> > In today's news, Patricia Dunn faced the consequences of her bad
> > decisions at top Fortune 500 company Hewlett-Packard (ranked
> > #11). H-P's BoD forced Dunn to step down as Chairwoman, due to her
> > faulty decision to use illegal methods,
>
> Using illegal method is not "a bad decision", it is trespassing. She
> should be judged for that, not just forced to resign.
>
>
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Regards,

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