Re: [ga] Anniversary of ALAC Self-Review

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sotiris and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

I could not agree more with you remarks and comments.  I am very sure
many if not most of our members, a few of which attended in Vancouver,
also agree as it seems Karl's earlier post on his observations at Vancouver
in part acknowledged.

Vittorio as you should recall, Sotiris, has been a frequent practitioner
of obviscation in his use of language and in his answers to direct
or pointed questions.  So of course has Denise Michel, Vint Cerf,
Paul Twomey and many others of the ICANN BOD and staff for
at least 5 years sense ICANN's existence.  Such nonsense is
hardly productive, or even remotely encouraging for stakeholders/users
everywhere.  This to me anyway, is a failure of leadership.   However
as all of ICANN's leadership is appointed and not elected, this poor
leadership should not be unexpected.  This is at the crux and always
had been at the crux of ICANN's troubles and turmoil, and will remain
so unless or until good elected/mandated leadership is in place and
has a chance/time to correct or fix the mess that has already been
made.

sotiris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> This is exactly why I asked Mr. Vittorio Bertola if perhaps the alac(k)
> review would be presented this time next year...
>
> It started off not being a personal thing for me as I thought surely
> Vittorio was an unwitting (and naive) victim of ICANN forces which were
> quite without his ken of understanding; let alone his conscious
> complicity...
>
> Today, I do not feel that way.  It has become personal.  Vittorio Bertola
> has lied to the At Large Community - to all of us - repeatedly.  It is
> quite obvious to me (and others, I'm sure) that Mr. Bertola's half-baked
> responses (when he degins to even respond) to our queries, are intentially
> ambiguous and patronizing.  I detest such tactics, along with those who
> use them.
>
> If he had even an inkling of personal honour, he would immediately admit
> the alac he so desired is an utter failure and resign forthwith.
>
> For Shame!  Shame on you Mr. Berotla.
>
> Sotiris Sotiropoulos
>
> P.S. Due to an unforeseen personal incident, I was unable to attend ICANN
> Vancouver.  Had I done so, I would have had to fight an uncontrollable
> urge to vomit from some of the things I heard on the webcast.
>
> > Vittorio,
> >
> > Today marks one full year since the ALAC initiated
> > their self-review process.  Please note the comment
> > made by Izumi on 3 Dec. 2004:
> >
> > "We are now making our own internal review and
> > hopefully the result in a shape of a position paper
> > will be finalized within 2 months time. In this
> > excersise we will evaluate our own performance, as
> > well as the situation and conditions surrounding
> > AtLarge, both within and outside of ICANN world."
> > http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00828.html
> >
> > Even the DNSO-Review working group with over a hundred
> > members (chaired by Y.J.Park) managed to finish their
> > initial review cycle in less than 3 months.
> >
> > The Committee has had enough time, don't you think?
> >
> >
> > --- Vittorio Bertola <vb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Danny Younger ha scritto:
> >> > Vittorio,
> >> >
> >> > When can we expect to see the ALAC Self-Review
> >> > published?  It would be appreciated if the
> >> document
> >> > could be made available prior to the conclusion of
> >> the
> >> > Public Comment Forum.
> >>
> >> It is on the agenda for today's ALAC meeting (which
> >> is before the Public
> >> Forum). However, one of the options we have on the
> >> table is to go
> >> through one more drafting cycle, as some members
> >> would like to have some
> >> more time to review the document and ensure that
> >> their point of view is
> >> adequately reflected. So we are not sure whether we
> >> will actually
> >> release it here in Vancouver.
> >> --
> >> vb.             [Vittorio Bertola - v.bertola [a]
> >> bertola.eu.org]<-----
> >> http://bertola.eu.org/  <- Prima o poi...
> >>
> >
> >
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Regards,

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