Re: [ga] Google evangelisation

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Chris and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

As I have already provided where you may search for the information
you seek, and in that there is still several ongoing investigations regarding
other related issues in the Worldcom/con scandle and initial fraud
investigation still in process and that I have provided some related
evidence regarding Vint and George Soros and a letter the sent to
me dated in 1998, I cannot comment further as such may jeopardize
the DOJ's continuing investigation. Hence as I said in my prior post
on this thread to your original reply, you also may seek to garner
whatever specific information your requesting of me, from the
DOJ via a FOIA request as is procedurally proper and advisable.

kidsearch wrote:

> The agreement is significant given that none of the 10 settling directors --
> Allen, Judith Areen, Carl J. Aycock, Max E. Bobbitt, Clifford L. Alexander
> Jr., Stiles A. Kellett Jr., Gordon S. Macklin, John A. Porter, Lawrence C.
> Tucker and the estate of the late John W. Sidgmore -- were alleged to have
> directly participated in the accounting fraud that led to WorldCom's
> collapse.
>
> Funny I don't see Cerf's name as one of the directors who settled for their
> role in the worldcom case. I checked your links from the archives which also
> did not verify your statement jeff.
>
> There are a lot of things I disagree with vint cerf about, especially his
> testimony to congress that icann has worked to achieve a "bottom up"
> consensus on anything. However before accusing him of being involved with
> fraud at worldcom would require more proof than any of the 134,000 members
> of INEgroup have provided so far. With that many members, certainly you
> could have some of them help provide you with links that can clarify the
> statement you made for us. The odds say that at least a few out of 134,000
> would have a little time to do this.
>
> I appreciate your help on this, sincerely, jeff.
>
> Chris McElroy
> http://www.kidsearchnetwork.org
> http://www.runawayteens.org
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "M. Morfin" <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <RBHauptman@xxxxxxx>;
> <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "vinton g. cerf" <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board
> address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>; "Kathy Smith" <KSMITH@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Paul
> Twomey" <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [ga] Google evangelisation
>
> > Whomever and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> stakeholders/users.
> >
> > The archives of this forum contains those links as does Wired, NYT,
> Washington
> > Post, ect.,  As I originally provided those links and posted same several
> times
> >
> > on this forum, you should have not trouble locating same yourself by doing
> > a search on such in the archives of this very forum.  You may also do
> > an FOIA request of the DOJ of the official court reported records as well.
> >
> > kidsearch wrote:
> >
> > > could you please give the link to any article connecting vint cerf with
> any
> > > financial misdealings in connection with worldcom?
> > >
> > > Or is this only in the archives of  INEG. INC?
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "M. Morfin" <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Cc: <RBHauptman@xxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "vinton g. cerf"
> > > <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>; "Kathy
> > > Smith" <KSMITH@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Paul Twomey" <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ga] Google evangelisation
> > >
> > > > Jefsey, Her Haupman, and all former DNSO GA members or other
> interested
> > > > stakeholders/users,
> > > >
> > > >   I for one, and I know many of our members fail to see Her Haupmans
> > > > description of humor in the search results he has suggested below.
> > > > Perhaps
> > > > a straight forward biography has some humor in such, but to
> connotative
> > > > such in the presidents biography listing on google seems odd at least.
> > > >
> > > > However I do find it understandable whey Vint had or has left
> > > > MCI/worldcom/com
> > > > as the heat towards himself sense the stock financial scam Bernie
> Ebbers
> > > > has
> > > > been convicted or included some concerns yet to be adjudicated
> involving
> > > >
> > > > company loans to employees including it seems Vint for some $6m which
> > > > interestingly enough was approximately what his new house cost to
> build.
> > > >
> > > > Investors seeking recovery of ill spent revenues from Worldcom/con
> > > > are not done yet.  Now I am sure vint will not fine this humorous, nor
> > > > after fairly recent fraud scandals with the UN ingratiate him in any
> > > > meaningful position amongst many member countries, given such a
> > > > history and back drop.
> > > >
> > > > M. Morfin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >    At 02:08 16/10/2005, RBHauptman@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > >If this is the one that brings up "Bush is a Complete Moron" then
> we
> > > > > >know at least the Internet is doing some good.
> > > > >
> > > > > No. It goes directly to his White House presentation. Neat and
> clear.
> > > > >
> > > > > >Did you happen to catch a recent speech where he actually referred
> > > > > >to it as "the Internets."
> > > > >
> > > > > No, but ... could I be in architectural agreement with him :-) ?
> > > > > I _he_ understood that, may the IETF will :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > jfc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >In a message dated 10/15/2005 4:51:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > > > >jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> > > > > >I love Vint's humour. This is the best Internet evangelisation
> trick
> > > > > in years.
> > > > > >1- Go to http://www.google.com
> > > > > >2- Type in "Failure", without the quotes
> > > > > >3- Instead of hitting "Search" hit "I'm feeling Lucky"
> > > > > >4- Look at it and *laugh* at what comes up
> > > > > >5- Tell your friends *ASAP* before Vint get elected UN General
> > > > > >Secretary (what would address the Internet Governance issue).
> > > > > >jfc
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jefsey, Her Haupman, and all former DNSO GA members or other
> interested
> > > > stakeholders/users,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > > "Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> > > >    Abraham Lincoln
> > > >
> > > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > > > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > > > ===============================================================
> > > > Updated 1/26/04
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> > > >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > "Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> >    Abraham Lincoln
> >
> > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > ===============================================================
> > Updated 1/26/04
> > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> > ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >  Registered Email addr with the USPS
> > Contact Number: 214-244-4827
> >
> >

Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is
very often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827