Re: [ga] Google evangelisation

["kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The agreement is significant given that none of the 10 settling directors -- 
Allen, Judith Areen, Carl J. Aycock, Max E. Bobbitt, Clifford L. Alexander
Jr., Stiles A. Kellett Jr., Gordon S. Macklin, John A. Porter, Lawrence C.
Tucker and the estate of the late John W. Sidgmore -- were alleged to have
directly participated in the accounting fraud that led to WorldCom's
collapse.

Funny I don't see Cerf's name as one of the directors who settled for their
role in the worldcom case. I checked your links from the archives which also
did not verify your statement jeff.

There are a lot of things I disagree with vint cerf about, especially his
testimony to congress that icann has worked to achieve a "bottom up"
consensus on anything. However before accusing him of being involved with
fraud at worldcom would require more proof than any of the 134,000 members
of INEgroup have provided so far. With that many members, certainly you
could have some of them help provide you with links that can clarify the
statement you made for us. The odds say that at least a few out of 134,000
would have a little time to do this.

I appreciate your help on this, sincerely, jeff.

Chris McElroy
http://www.kidsearchnetwork.org
http://www.runawayteens.org



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "kidsearch" <kidsearch@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "M. Morfin" <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <RBHauptman@xxxxxxx>;
<ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "vinton g. cerf" <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board
address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>; "Kathy Smith" <KSMITH@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Paul
Twomey" <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Google evangelisation


> Whomever and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users.
>
> The archives of this forum contains those links as does Wired, NYT,
Washington
> Post, ect.,  As I originally provided those links and posted same several
times
>
> on this forum, you should have not trouble locating same yourself by doing
> a search on such in the archives of this very forum.  You may also do
> an FOIA request of the DOJ of the official court reported records as well.
>
> kidsearch wrote:
>
> > could you please give the link to any article connecting vint cerf with
any
> > financial misdealings in connection with worldcom?
> >
> > Or is this only in the archives of  INEG. INC?
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "M. Morfin" <jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Cc: <RBHauptman@xxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "vinton g. cerf"
> > <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>; "icann board address" <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>; "Kathy
> > Smith" <KSMITH@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Paul Twomey" <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 16, 2005 2:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ga] Google evangelisation
> >
> > > Jefsey, Her Haupman, and all former DNSO GA members or other
interested
> > > stakeholders/users,
> > >
> > >   I for one, and I know many of our members fail to see Her Haupmans
> > > description of humor in the search results he has suggested below.
> > > Perhaps
> > > a straight forward biography has some humor in such, but to
connotative
> > > such in the presidents biography listing on google seems odd at least.
> > >
> > > However I do find it understandable whey Vint had or has left
> > > MCI/worldcom/com
> > > as the heat towards himself sense the stock financial scam Bernie
Ebbers
> > > has
> > > been convicted or included some concerns yet to be adjudicated
involving
> > >
> > > company loans to employees including it seems Vint for some $6m which
> > > interestingly enough was approximately what his new house cost to
build.
> > >
> > > Investors seeking recovery of ill spent revenues from Worldcom/con
> > > are not done yet.  Now I am sure vint will not fine this humorous, nor
> > > after fairly recent fraud scandals with the UN ingratiate him in any
> > > meaningful position amongst many member countries, given such a
> > > history and back drop.
> > >
> > > M. Morfin wrote:
> > >
> > > >    At 02:08 16/10/2005, RBHauptman@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > >If this is the one that brings up "Bush is a Complete Moron" then
we
> > > > >know at least the Internet is doing some good.
> > > >
> > > > No. It goes directly to his White House presentation. Neat and
clear.
> > > >
> > > > >Did you happen to catch a recent speech where he actually referred
> > > > >to it as "the Internets."
> > > >
> > > > No, but ... could I be in architectural agreement with him :-) ?
> > > > I _he_ understood that, may the IETF will :-)
> > > >
> > > > jfc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >In a message dated 10/15/2005 4:51:06 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> > > > >jefsey@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> > > > >I love Vint's humour. This is the best Internet evangelisation
trick
> > > > in years.
> > > > >1- Go to http://www.google.com
> > > > >2- Type in "Failure", without the quotes
> > > > >3- Instead of hitting "Search" hit "I'm feeling Lucky"
> > > > >4- Look at it and *laugh* at what comes up
> > > > >5- Tell your friends *ASAP* before Vint get elected UN General
> > > > >Secretary (what would address the Internet Governance issue).
> > > > >jfc
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Jefsey, Her Haupman, and all former DNSO GA members or other
interested
> > > stakeholders/users,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jeffrey A. Williams
> > > Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> > > "Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
> > >    Abraham Lincoln
> > >
> > > "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> > > liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> > > P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> > > United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> > > ===============================================================
> > > Updated 1/26/04
> > > CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> > > IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
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> > > E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> > >
> > >
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Jeffrey A. Williams
> Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
> "Obediance of the law is the greatest freedom" -
>    Abraham Lincoln
>
> "If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
> liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
> P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
> United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
> ===============================================================
> Updated 1/26/04
> CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
> IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
> ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402
> E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>  Registered Email addr with the USPS
> Contact Number: 214-244-4827
>
>