Re: [ga] Sneak in! TR

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  This is typical of how SBC and Denise Michel operate.  They have done
it
before and will do it again. Esther Dyson helped here out the first time
which
was and remains a dismal failure.  Not listening to the
stakeholders/users
and arbitrarily giving consideration to Thomas, whom is not a bad fellow

but often an absentee to the actual views of the stakeholder/users, as
the
defacto "Spokesman" for the GA is of course unrepresentative at best and
a misrepresentation at worst.

  The ALAC doesn't represent stakeholders/users and never has.  I cannot

because it restricts stakeholders/users form participation via cryptic
means
that thwarts free speech as well as freedom of expression.  Hence, such
and organization that purprots to defacto represent stakeholders/users
is only seeking to fool the majority of stakeholders/users into
believing
it is in some odd but incorrect way representative of the majority of
interested parties/stakeholders/users...

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    Here is a very telling interchange from ALAC.
> I like how these folks do business on behalf of the at-large
> community.
> This really sounds like a liason. My goodness what does a subversive
> agent do?
> e
> http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00025.html
>
> 2003-02-18 10:59:28 -0800, Denise Michel wrote:
>
> >    I think a more productive course of action is for Thomas, who
> >    has served on the WHOIS Task Force for year(s) as the General
> >    Assembly representative, to submit his detailed comments as
> >    the GA representative, since they seem to reflect his
> >    experiences and comments he's received on the former GA list.
>
> It's not so much based on comments received on the GA list, but
> rather on comments received by the WHOIS Task Force itself, on
> discussions at ICANN meetings (with people across constituencies, by
> the way), and so on...
>
> >    If ALAC members feel strongly that a statement must be
> >    submitted today,
>
> Since I'm also wearing the hat of the WHOIS Task Force's formatting
> slave, I can sneak in any text until noon tomorrow (East Coast
> time)...  Deadline extended by 20 hours. ;-)
>
> >      * ALAC members have not had time to get up to speed on this
> >      issue, the Task Force's work, and "At-Large" WHOIS concerns,
> >      and the ALAC is still developing its processes
>
> I'd very much hope that any ALAC members who have a concern along
> these lines can speak up for themselves...  If this point mirrors
> the concerns of a significant part of the members of this Committee,
> I'd be happy to post the comment as a personal one elsewhere.
>
> >      * Thomas has just been designated as Task Force ALAC liaison
>
> This is a problem for what reason, precisely?
>
> >      * This draft is not an "impact statement", but rather report
> >       comments. Developing an impact statement for individual
> >       users is a very challenging process, given the vast
> >       disparity of individual users of the Internet.
>
> An "impact statement" is a very broad concept, and groups can use it
> to roughly say what they want to say.  What this document does is to
> discuss the impact on various classes of registrants, and to put
> this into a broader context.  It also, in some places, gives
> interpretations of the text.  While this is not a very narrow impact
> statement, I think that it's still within the confines of what's
> appropriate.
>
>
>

Regards,

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Jeffrey A. Williams
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