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Re: [ga] Sneak in! TR

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>, icann board address <icann-board@xxxxxxxxx>, Don Evans <DEvans@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] Sneak in! TR
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2004 19:31:01 -0700
  • Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, denise michel <denisemichel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Thomas Roessler <roessler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Esther Dyson <edyson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Paul Twomey <twomey@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Organization: INEGroup Spokesman
  • References: <20040824135920.64708.qmail@web52906.mail.yahoo.com>
  • Sender: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Eric and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
stakeholders/users,

  This is typical of how SBC and Denise Michel operate.  They have done
it before and will do it again. Esther Dyson helped here out the first 
time which was and remains a dismal failure.  Not listening to the
stakeholders/users and arbitrarily giving consideration to Thomas, 
whom is not a bad fellow but often an absentee to the actual views 
of the stakeholder/users, as the defacto "Spokesman" for the GA is 
of course unrepresentative at best and a misrepresentation at worst.

  The ALAC doesn't represent stakeholders/users and never has.  
I cannot because it restricts stakeholders/users form participation 
via cryptic means that thwarts free speech as well as freedom of 
expression.  Hence, such and organization that purprots to defacto 
represent stakeholders/users is only seeking to fool the majority 
of stakeholders/users into believing it is in some odd but 
incorrect way representative of the majority of interested 
parties/stakeholders/users...

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    Here is a very telling interchange from ALAC.
> I like how these folks do business on behalf of the at-large
> community.
> This really sounds like a liason. My goodness what does a subversive
> agent do?
> e
> http://forum.icann.org/mail-archive/alac/msg00025.html
>
> 2003-02-18 10:59:28 -0800, Denise Michel wrote:
>
> >    I think a more productive course of action is for Thomas, who
> >    has served on the WHOIS Task Force for year(s) as the General
> >    Assembly representative, to submit his detailed comments as
> >    the GA representative, since they seem to reflect his
> >    experiences and comments he's received on the former GA list.
>
> It's not so much based on comments received on the GA list, but
> rather on comments received by the WHOIS Task Force itself, on
> discussions at ICANN meetings (with people across constituencies, by
> the way), and so on...
>
> >    If ALAC members feel strongly that a statement must be
> >    submitted today,
>
> Since I'm also wearing the hat of the WHOIS Task Force's formatting
> slave, I can sneak in any text until noon tomorrow (East Coast
> time)...  Deadline extended by 20 hours. ;-)
>
> >      * ALAC members have not had time to get up to speed on this
> >      issue, the Task Force's work, and "At-Large" WHOIS concerns,
> >      and the ALAC is still developing its processes
>
> I'd very much hope that any ALAC members who have a concern along
> these lines can speak up for themselves...  If this point mirrors
> the concerns of a significant part of the members of this Committee,
> I'd be happy to post the comment as a personal one elsewhere.
>
> >      * Thomas has just been designated as Task Force ALAC liaison
>
> This is a problem for what reason, precisely?
>
> >      * This draft is not an "impact statement", but rather report
> >       comments. Developing an impact statement for individual
> >       users is a very challenging process, given the vast
> >       disparity of individual users of the Internet.
>
> An "impact statement" is a very broad concept, and groups can use it
> to roughly say what they want to say.  What this document does is to
> discuss the impact on various classes of registrants, and to put
> this into a broader context.  It also, in some places, gives
> interpretations of the text.  While this is not a very narrow impact
> statement, I think that it's still within the confines of what's
> appropriate.
>
>
>

Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
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