Re: [ga] dot-IQ

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Asaad and all former DNSO GA members or other interested stakeholders/users,

Asaad Y. Alnajjar, P.E. - Millennium Inc. wrote:

> Jeff
>
> Through the multiple hats I hold, the presentations I conducted on behalf of
> Iraq and the various non profit organizations I am active within, I have
> managed along with many other loyal Iraqis & Arabs to set the direction in
> which Iraq's technology and technical advancement is heading towards within
> the next two years, it has been a tough year but we have so far survived.

 I was not aware of you being present in Iraq or of you working within
and in concert with the current Iraq council in place in Bagdad.  Perhaps
some specific references are in order?  In any event, in war survival is
defeat, victory is all that really matters.

>
>
> Since late 2000 I have been pursuing excellence not only for .IQ but for all
> the Arab ccTLDs in an effort to rise the Arabic internet presence to the
> leadership position it should be at, the hurdle has always been within some
> elements of ICANN.

  Yes I am sure ICANN has presented some difficult obstacles for you
and any-dns.  But I was not aware that any-dns was a non profit
organization...  Yet ICANN is not where your efforts should be
directed.

>
>
> To answer you straight out, YES, the interim government and the one upcoming
> June 30 are all aware of our contribution for .IQ and other internet and
> telecom infrastructure and grounds to come and to build over the upcoming
> years.

Well it should not take years to build a reasonably funded registry.  Hence
my concern has only been now heightened as to your efforts...

>
>
> Please don't compare us to other private sector entities (whom are trying
> hard to steal this from the Iraqi people) as the work on hand here is by non
> profit organization and the goal is to build Iraq.

  I believe the Iraqi council has the proper and legal authority to decide and
determine along with the citizens of Iraq to determine what entity if outside
the Iraqi government, will be managing the .IQ ccTLD...  I can only hope
that whatever the decision the Iraqi council makes .IQ will remain in the
hands of a Iraqi governmental entity and thereby accountable to the
Iraqi people instead of some non-profit or for profit corp. that has no
direct accountability to whom such a registry serves...  Iraq and it's
people have already seen far too much non governmental and private
enterprise, for profit or non-profit taking advantage of it's people...

>
>
> Hope to get your support.
>
> Regards,
>
> Asaad
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "Asaad Y. Alnajjar - Millennium Inc." <asaad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 7:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [ga] dot-IQ
>
> > Asaad and all former DNSO GA members or other interested
> stakeholders/users,
> >
> >  Does your plan for dot-IQ have the consent of the current interim
> > Iraq government?  If not, than I suspect ICANN will not be in any
> > position to take a position on your proposal or plan, Asaad...
> >
> >   Personally I am more than a bit suspicious these days of private
> > industry or the private sector from taking over the management of
> > any ccTLD given the history that is long, tedious and disruptive
> > with other ccTLD's many on this forum had witnessed...
> >
>
> > Asaad Y. Alnajjar - Millennium Inc. wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Joop
> > >
> > > I have been trying with ICANN to get this going as back as Stuart days
> with no
> > > luck. And the way it is now Paul has not shown any cause to make us
> believe they
> > > will act on it any soon.
> > >
> > > >From the prospective of the Iraqis, it is a priority as we had over the
> past
> > > year put together a rebuild plan for all the Universities and
> enterprises with
> > > the aid of the UNESCWA to get Iraq's internet well postioned.
> > >
> > > Registration regulations are established, pricing strucutre has been put
> > > together and discussed many months ago similar to the region's strucutre
> and as
> > > accepted by the Arab League IT
> > >
> > > We are ready to deploy and run within couple days and provide the
> Iraqi's what
> > > they have been deprived off by Saddam & ICANN. I hope we get your
> support.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Asaad Alnajjar
> > > CEO Millennium Inc.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Joop Teernstra" <terastra@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 3:56 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [ga] dot-IQ
> > >
> > > > At 06:57 p.m. 15/05/2004, Joanna Lane wrote:
> > > > >Do you really think this is a priority in Iraq right now?
> > > >
> > > > ICANN has no business with any *other* priorities in Iraq.
> > > > Just this one.
> > > >
> > > >   ICANN should pronounce policy on issues of [sanctions] legislation
> of one
> > > > country (the US in this case) vs. the integrity of its Root.
> > > >   ICANN is also duty bound to take an active hand in
> > > > re-establishing  "disconnected" TLD's and their domains.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -joop-
> > > > www.icannatlarge.com
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Jeffrey A. Williams
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Regards,

--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Be precise in the use of words and expect precision from others" -
    Pierre Abelard

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B;
liability depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security
IDNS. div. of Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Registered Email addr with the USPS
Contact Number: 214-244-4827