Re: [ga] More on Sitefinder suspension

[Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dan and all former DNSO GA members,

 No Dan, the clauses to which Andy was referring to do exist
and are used.  As one that has done a number of these
sorts of USG contracts over the years I can certainly
attest to some of them.

  BTW, as I recall Worldcom/com - MCI had two of their
contracts with the FCC canceled/suspended using these very clauses.
I believe either Wired or slashdot reported on that aspect
some time ago in a couple of their articles one of which
I posted to this forum, See archives for further info.

 But Dan, I do not believe that there is a URL Reference
to these clauses on the NTIA web site.  So suggesting
that they do not exist simply because you are unable
to find them or Andy not providing a URL reference
for them is a rather unreasonable suggestion at best...

And BTW Dan, one of those clauses that I think
Andy was referencing is Clause 52.217-9

Yet another DOC/NTIA contact to gain specific info
would be Carol A.Silverman  301-258-4506
csilverman@xxxxxxx

Dan Steinberg wrote:

> No. I'm trying to say that if with the help of google and text searches
> people cant find the right clauses or texts when it comes to supporting
> their arguments I tend to doubt that said clauses exist in a precise
> form that would tend to support said arguments.
> I have been around this block often enough.  Vague recollection of
> clauses and pointing to things that dont exactly prove a point don't
> impress me anymore.  And I doubt they impress  the people who are
> actually in a position to do something either.
> So if you are going to claim that NTIA should step in and use a
> particular clause or clauses I suggest you take the time to reference them.
>
> admin wrote:
>
> >>Same thing for Russ.  If these clauses are so obviously applicable why
> >>do we have to go looking for them?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Because most people do not have clauses to cooperative agreements memorized.
> >This is nothing new or something that has never been used before.  These
> >clauses to which I refer cover all cooperative agreements and have been
> >around for many years.  The issue is whether NTIA wants to step in and use
> >them.
> >
> >Are you trying to say that because people don't have the clause memorized
> >that it cannot be used?
> >
> >Russ Smith
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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