Re: [ga] Proposed GNSO Working Group Guidelines Published

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

Jeff,

Front loading or perceived conflicts of interests or industry campaigning are 
not innopposite or elleviated by openness and transparency.  They are made 
ameliorated and contained and clear and honest. Having a bent is not a bad 
thing. Lying about it is. On this list you wear your opines like a pack cabbage 
on a generals chest -- that is good, we know where you are coming from and pay 
you the attention accordingly. In more organized WG and TFs we cannot always 
tell the players team colors. But with openness and transparency we soon know 
the wolves from the lambs, regardless of the clothing.

FF is another good example -- we know he is a bureaucrat who is most concerned 
with self agrandizement and promotion and his own job.  So when he speaks. 
Whalaa we know not to listen. Apparently the BoD feels the same.




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From: Jeffrey A. Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>; "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" 
<ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Rod Beckstrom <rod_beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, June 10, 2010 2:48:01 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Proposed GNSO Working Group Guidelines Published


Eric and all,
 
  Good points!  My concern is that the seeming desire is to front-load a 
predetermined
decision on the WG before it even gets started.  That's not in my mind at 
least, what
a open and transparent WG should be doing.  Just my 2 cents....



-----Original Message----- 
>From: Hugh Dierker 
>Sent: Jun 9, 2010 11:59 PM 
>To: "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" , Glen de Saint Géry 
>Cc: Rod Beckstrom 
>Subject: Re: [ga] Proposed GNSO Working Group Guidelines Published 
>
>
>I have been on a few TFs and WG going back to 1999.  I applaud some evaluation 
>and improvement. I believe some of the best of breed from ICANN came from 
>these groups. I do not see a flaw in the "system" and I do think the new recs' 
>will make them even better.
>
>Where I see the failure is in presentation to the public and the BoD and 
>Council. The desire to reach consensus has overshadowed the age old and true 
>method of publishing minority positions. And then the conclusions of the group 
>are not afforded appropriate aplomb or given the forum necessary or the tools 
>to advocate the conclusions. The consensus driven model creates an environment 
>where consensus builders are then expected to change their stripes and become 
>crusaders for a working group cause -- has not happened yet and causes 
>frustration and impotence. This wastes good results and drives away talented 
>volunteer contributors.
>
>--- On Tue, 6/1/10, Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>>From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
>>Subject: [ga] Proposed GNSO Working Group Guidelines Published
>>To: "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Date: Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:30 PM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Proposed GNSO Working Group Guidelines Published
>>http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-3-31may10-en.htm
>>
>>WG-WT Publishes its Report
>>
>>31 May 2010
>>
>>As part of GNSO Improvements, which has as its objective to improve the 
>>structure and operations of the Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO), 
>>a Working Group (WG) Work Team (WT) was tasked with developing a Working 
>>Group Model. The Working Group Model should become the focal point for GNSO 
>>policy development and enhance the policy development process by making it 
>>more inclusive and representative, and - ultimately - more effective and 
>>efficient. To this end, the WG WT has developed a document, entitled 'GNSO 
>>Working Group Guidelines', which brings together two different elements of 
>>the Working Group process; on the one hand it addresses what should be 
>>considered in creating, purposing, funding, staffing, and instructing/guiding 
>>a WG to accomplish the desired outcome (the chartering process), and; 
>>secondly, what guidance should be provided to a WG on elements such as 
>>structuring, norms, tasking, reporting, and delivering the outcome(s) as
 chartered (the working group !
>>process). Following review of public comments on an earlier version of the 
>>proposed GNSO Working Group Guidelines, the WG WT has now finalized its 
>>recommendations and will submit the proposed GNSO Working Group Guidelines to 
>>the Policy Process Steering Committee (PPSC) for its review.
>>
>>Background
>>
>>In the past, the GNSO decided policy mainly through small legislative bodies 
>>called "Task Forces." Intentionally, it is moving towards a more inclusive, 
>>representative model where key parties tackle an issue together as a "Working 
>>Group," then make recommendations to the GNSO Council. The WG WT was tasked 
>>to define the new Working Group model, including guidelines, checklists, and 
>>other materials to speed the process of creating, chartering, naming, 
>>funding, staffing, and guiding a GNSO Working Group.
>>
>>Further Information
>>
>>    * GNSO Working Group Guidelines - 
>>http://gnso.icann.org/improvements/working-group-guidelines-31may10-en.pdf 
>>[PDF, 681 KB]
>>    * WG-WT Workspace - 
>>https://st.icann.org/icann-ppsc/index.cgi?working_group_team
>>    * GNSO Improvements - http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/
>>
>>Staff responsible: Marika Konings
>>
>>Glen de Saint Géry
>>GNSO Secretariat
>>gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>http://gnso.icann.org/
>>
>> 
>Regards,
>
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