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Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
- To: <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
- From: "John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:32:36 -0500
The TLDA failed because not enough people were interested in working hard
enough to make
it work. It also failed because Joe's misbehavior on the public lists scared
people away.
Its there if people want it to work. Instead of throwing stones at it, Hugh,
why don't you join the
organization and help revive it? I bet you could win a seat on the Board or
committees. How
about you and "Jeff"?? Of course, the TLDA has identity verification
requirements for voting
members, committee members and officers, but you aren't scared of that, are
you, "Jeff"??
If you're not willing to join in the effort, please keep your criticisms to
yourself.
As for censorship, I did no such thing. I simply asked the authorities to cure
an internet security
problem. It is not "freedom of speech" to post virus links on a public website,
its a criminal
offense in alot of places.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Hugh Dierker
To: Accountability Headquarters
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2010 10:29 AM
Subject: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
Two different concepts that you have to understand here. There is
management via technicalities and technical management. Then there are other
issues -- management of technology and the technology of management.
How to make parts interact can be technical or social. Depends on the
parts. Human parts have one very varied set of principals, some machine parts
have very "on off" simplicity. The marketing of a political answer to a legal
quandry regarding internet privacy is quite technical and requires a complex
application of soft science in the areas of anthropology and social justice. So
trying to make a clean seperation between technical and Poli tical is nonsense.
My humor was that ICANN in its' own in house process uses the failure
to apply technology as an excus-- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey A. Williams
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
Hugo and all,
No my experiance regarding Eric is he prefers technical
management via some
sort of politics. I on the other hand believe that such a practice
almost always
ends up being folly and results in a poor solution or more likely
an unworkable one.
There are no political solutions to technical problems, only
technical solutions....
On a rare occasion a solution to a technical problem is agreed to
or proposed by a
politician. But those very rare occurances are usually, or nearly
always as a result
of that politician consulting with a good technician or one sort or
another before
offering his/her proposed solution.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugo Monteiro
Sent: Jun 7, 2010 5:29 PM
To: Hugh Dierker
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
On 06/07/2010 10:43 PM, Hugh Dierker wrote:
Wow. It would seem that you do not care for technical
management by politics.
-- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey A. Williams
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
Hugo and all,
No my experiance regarding Eric is he prefers technical
management via some
sort of politics. I on the other hand believe that such a practice
almost always
ends up being folly and results in a poor solution or more likely
an unworkable one.
There are no political solutions to technical problems, only
technical solutions....
On a rare occasion a solution to a technical problem is agreed to
or proposed by a
politician. But those very rare occurances are usually, or nearly
always as a result
of that politician consulting with a good technician or one sort or
another before
offering his/her proposed solution.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugo Monteiro
Sent: Jun 7, 2010 5:29 PM
To: Hugh Dierker
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
On 06/07/2010 10:43 PM, Hugh Dierker wrote:
Wow. It would seem that you do not care for technical
management by politics.
One has to wonder what's so technical about hitting a
"reject/ignore" button. You just made me feel i'm a rocket scientist!
R's,
Hugo Monteiro.
--
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Hugo Monteiro
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<DIV>No need to worry - I contacted a responsible party at ICANN and
</DIV>
<DIV>the miscreant has been removed from the list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily scheduled discussions,
none</DIV>
<DIV>of which have advanced the cause of domain name owners in
all</DIV>
<DIV>the years that I have been here.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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<A title=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Jeffrey
A. Williams</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010
4:32
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<DIV>No need to worry - I contacted a responsible party at ICANN and
</DIV>
<DIV>the miscreant has been removed from the list.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily scheduled discussions,
none</DIV>
<DIV>of which have advanced the cause of domain name owners in
all</DIV>
<DIV>the years that I have been here.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>John</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
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<A title=jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Jeffrey
A. Williams</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 08, 2010
4:32
PM</DIV>
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<P>Hugo and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> No my experiance regarding Eric is he prefers technical
management
via some</P>
<P>sort of politics. I on the other hand believe that such a
practice
almost always</P>
<P>ends up being folly and results in a poor solution or more
likely an
unworkable one. </P>
<P>There are no political solutions to technical problems, only
technical
solutions.... </P>
<P>On a rare occasion a solution to a technical problem is agreed
to or
proposed by a </P>
<P>politician. But those very rare occurances are usually, or
nearly
always as a result </P>
<P>of that politician consulting with a good technician or one sort
or another
before </P>
<P>offering his/her proposed solution.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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2px solid">-----Original
Message----- <BR>From: Hugo Monteiro
<HUGO.MONTEIRO@xxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent: Jun
7, 2010 5:29 PM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker
<HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc:
ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <BR>Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
<BR><BR><ZZZHTML><ZZZHEAD><ZZZMETA http-equiv="Content-Type"
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vAlign=top>Wow. It would seem that you do not care for
technical
management by politics.
<BR><BR></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>One has to
wonder
what's so technical about hitting a "reject/ignore" button. You
just made me
feel i'm a rocket scientist!<BR><BR>R's,<BR><BR>Hugo
Monteiro.<BR><BR><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">--
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Hugo Monteiro
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Telefone : +351 212948300 Ext.15307
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href="http://hmonteiro.net";>http://hmonteiro.net</A>
Divisão de Informática
Faculdade de Ciências e Tecnologia da
Universidade Nova de Lisboa
Quinta da Torre 2829-516 Caparica Portugal
Telefone: +351 212948596 Fax: +351 212948548
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</PRE><PRE class=moz-signature cols="72">Regards,
Jeffrey A. Williams
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