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[ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
- To: Accountability Headquarters <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: [ga] Technical Management?? Spam, phishing and viruses??
- From: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:29:03 -0700 (PDT)
Two different concepts that you have to understand here. There is management
via technicalities and technical management. Then there are other issues --
management of technology and the technology of management.
How to make parts interact can be technical or social. Depends on the parts.
Human parts have one very varied set of principals, some machine parts have
very "on off" simplicity. The marketing of a political answer to a legal
quandry regarding internet privacy is quite technical and requires a complex
application of soft science in the areas of anthropology and social justice. So
trying to make a clean seperation between technical and Poli tical is nonsense.
My humor was that ICANN in its' own in house process uses the failure to apply
technology as an excuse to avoid efficiency which would be contrary to the
bureaucracy they have built up to justify and obscure their actions. If this
list were allowed or was run efficiently we would be dangerous to the status
quo. So matters like banning people, accuracy in post archiving and anti-spam
and virus are to be kept innocuous and unaccontable in the political model that
is ICANN.
As to Palmer's comments -- again he revels in a victory through silencing
criticism as opposed to honest discourse and transparency in activity.
Generally the sign of fear and lack of confidence in the correctness in ones'
actions. But he is a good reminder that ICANN is getting it done where the
TLDA is/was failure because of even worse forsight and more lack of human
understanding.
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 3:59 PM
No need to worry - I contacted a responsible party at ICANN and
the miscreant has been removed from the list.
You can all go back to your regularily scheduled discussions, none
of which have advanced the cause of domain name owners in all
the years that I have been here.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey A. Williams
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2010 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
Hugo and all,
No my experiance regarding Eric is he prefers technical management via some
sort of politics. I on the other hand believe that such a practice almost
always
ends up being folly and results in a poor solution or more likely an
unworkable one.
There are no political solutions to technical problems, only technical
solutions....
On a rare occasion a solution to a technical problem is agreed to or proposed
by a
politician. But those very rare occurances are usually, or nearly always as
a result
of that politician consulting with a good technician or one sort or another
before
offering his/her proposed solution.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hugo Monteiro
Sent: Jun 7, 2010 5:29 PM
To: Hugh Dierker
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Re:
On 06/07/2010 10:43 PM, Hugh Dierker wrote:
Wow. It would seem that you do not care for technical management by
politics.
One has to wonder what's so technical about hitting a "reject/ignore"
button. You just made me feel i'm a rocket scientist!
R's,
Hugo Monteiro.
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<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily scheduled discussions, none</DIV>
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<DIV>John</DIV>
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<DIV>the miscreant has been removed from the list.</DIV>
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<DIV>You can all go back to your regularily scheduled discussions, none</DIV>
<DIV>of which have advanced the cause of domain name owners in all</DIV>
<DIV>the years that I have been here.</DIV>
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<DIV>John</DIV>
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<P>Hugo and all,</P>
<P> </P>
<P> No my experiance regarding Eric is he prefers technical management
via some</P>
<P>sort of politics. I on the other hand believe that such a practice
almost always</P>
<P>ends up being folly and results in a poor solution or more likely an
unworkable one. </P>
<P>There are no political solutions to technical problems, only technical
solutions.... </P>
<P>On a rare occasion a solution to a technical problem is agreed to or
proposed by a </P>
<P>politician. But those very rare occurances are usually, or nearly
always as a result </P>
<P>of that politician consulting with a good technician or one sort or
another
before </P>
<P>offering his/her proposed solution.<BR><BR><BR></P>
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Message----- <BR>From: Hugo Monteiro <HUGO.MONTEIRO@xxxxxxxxxx><BR>Sent:
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7, 2010 5:29 PM <BR>To: Hugh Dierker <HDIERKER2204@xxxxxxxxx><BR>Cc:
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vAlign=top>Wow. It would seem that you do not care for technical
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what's so technical about hitting a "reject/ignore" button. You just made
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feel i'm a rocket scientist!<BR><BR>R's,<BR><BR>Hugo Monteiro.<BR><BR><PRE
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