RE: [ga] RE: GA irrelevant

["Jeffrey A. Williams" <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Roberto and all,

  Free tools for social networking sites and/or organizations are fine
as far as they go, which in todays IT world, not near far enough,
as recent EU and US governments and publics are making very clear,
especially amongst young people and professionals irrespective of
age.  Otherwise the remainder of your comments and remarks as far
as I can determine, are spot on/correct IMO.  Nicely done Roberto! >:)


-----Original Message-----
>From: Roberto Gaetano <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: May 15, 2010 8:40 PM
>To: 'GNSO GA Mailing List' <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: RE: [ga] RE: GA  irrelevant
>
>
>
>I think that we are turning in circles, but let me give a last reply on this
>subject.
>
>Joop:
>> 
>> The whole problem is that ICANN even asks for a renewed 
>> "petition to form a constituency".
>
>Renewed???
>Since the GNSO structure has changed, these are the activities ongoing to
>form new constituencies:
>http://gnso.icann.org/en/improvements/newco-process-en.htm.
>
>
>
>> 
>> Registrants *are* a logical constituency , much more so than, 
>> say, the IP "constituency", and ICANN knows this, but does 
>> not want to let its Board formally acknowledge it.
>
>If is the case that Registrants *are* a logical constituency, and I believe
>it is, it should not be very difficult to write a charter following the
>instructions on the url above. If there is no proposal, the Board cannot
>approve it. It reminds me a famous italian joke about a guy that was asking
>San Gennaro for a miracle.
>
>
>
>> 
>> George and Sotiris are right about the further hoops 
>> organizers have to jump though.
>> 
>> You did not answer my question  about how to motivate 
>> prospective representatives in the face of the massive 
>> existing demotivation of having to try this all over again 
>> and for no real result.
>
>I have no idea on how to motivate prospective representatives, and have no
>intention to run around and motivate people if they are not convinced by
>themselves. I am only replying to the question: "How to have a
>representation of Registrants in the GNSO?" with the answer: "Getting a
>constituency formed!". If there is not enough motivation to write a charter
>and go through the process, the logical consequence is that there's going to
>be no representation of the Registrants, as simple as that.
>
>
>Sotiris:
>> 
>> How about voting for a bootstrap Chair/Committee to form the 
>> nucleus of an RC, which could formulate a charter that might 
>> have a chance at passing muster as a serious effort?
>
>With all the free tools that are available today for social networks, it
>seems to me that it should not be exceedingly difficult to get a bunch of
>people together to write a charter. I am pretty sure that none of the groups
>who have written prospective constituency charters (see again the url above)
>have set up a complete parliamentary structure: after all you need to write
>a charter, not a constitution.
>
>
>> 
>> How did you know I was a Magritte fan?
>
>We all crazies are Magritte fans ;>)
>
>Roberto
>

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