RE: [ga] Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy - show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)

["Debbie Garside" <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Joe Baptista
Sent: 03 April 2010 14:39
To: abel wisman
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is
destroy - show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment
with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)


The bad spelling from Thomas Baxter (a.k.a. John Palmer) is intentional.
Some time back Mr. Palmer told us his alternate personality had a very heavy
Slavic accent. So I guess to keep up the pretense the bad spelling is an
attempt at an ASCII version of a Slavic accent.

Now we could stop this nonsense immediately if the GA rules were enforced.
But considering what happened here some time ago in which the rules were
abused by ICANN staff I have very little hope of that. But we can try. Your
welcomed to make a complaint to the Chair if you wish.

kindest regards
joe baptista


On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:10 AM, abel wisman <abel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


If you have to send all this nonsense to this maillist, can you please have
the common decency to use a spell-checker and not use words that you have no
clue on how to spell to begin with?

Best of course woule be if you refrained from posting any of this rubbish.





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From: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
To: POST-TO GNSO LIST 
Sent: Sat Apr 03 04:53:45 2010 

Subject: Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy -
show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John
Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers) 

Joe joe joe

You didnt answer the question that I just posed in my subj line, namely -
what positive aspects did you ever
give to the causes of the I.N.S.?

We know you were sued by the police in Canada because you annoyed the local
govt with your complaints
that police officers shouldn't be able to stop for meals during their hard
days of protection for the public good.

The guy from the government, I think he said that your a bit of a kook or
something like that, so
the question should be asked loud:

WHY SHOULD ANY PERSON TRUST ANY INFORMATION YOU SAY, JOE INCLUDING YOUR PARA
NOID RAVINGS
REGARDING HERMAN XENT?????????????????

The way a lot of persons see the issue re Europe in around 2005 is that you
did a deliberate sabatage when
it looked like I.N.S. would actually succeed and you know the whole industry
died off after your stabbed it
around the heart.

Sorry crackpott, but very few people think that this is only by accident. 

I think (and do do many peoples and companies, including some sovern
goverments) that you did this 
on purpose to kill the chances of competition for icann are the person that
does not have much credibles. 

I think you are paid from icann. You dont seem to have more visible supports
and live with street people in 
a po dunk town in Ontaio. You called Karl a welfare bumb once - but what are
you but even worse because
at least Karl is an honest religion person with a nice family who tries
hard. 

You, you are just a sell-off and trator. 

Sorry that the facts are pain, but there it is and all readers of experince
know this to be real.

Thoms.

 
BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 



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From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: POST-TO GNSO LIST <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 10:23:48 PM
Subject: Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy -
show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John
Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)

Dear Mr. John Palmer a.k.a. Thomas Baxter:

I think it's an innovative approach sliming me while you market your
services - but let's try to remain focused here. Your trying to sell people
on using your "free" root services. My only question is - why should anyone
trust you John Palmer or your alternate personality Thomas Baxter to provide
them with DNS services?

I would trust OpenDNS and even some of the OpenNIC servers for DNS. But I
would never trust a man like John Palmer who leaves me psychotic messages
http://bit.ly/5KxboD ???

The provisioning of public DNS services "free" or "pay" is all about trust.
Would you not agree Mr. Palmer a.k.a. Thomas Baxter. So once again I ask a
simple question. Why should we trust you?

regards
joe baptista


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I dont see selling any root services here - the serverces are free to anyone

if they want to just change their dns settings in their computer.

You can get access to stuff you dont have now like the http://lion-mail.net
which offers spam free
private e mail and looks like you can win a new apple i pad by June 30 too. 

This is one benefit that the I.N.S. should publisize - because not many
people have
changed the dns settings, spammers cant get spams to your I.N.S. email
addies. 

But Joe, you are probably paid from icann to sabatage the I.N.S. This is
true or
you are sychotic, one of the two must be true.  So you shouldnt throw rocks
at people who tried to make stuff work, like John and Bradley and Herman
Xennt. 

As much as I can tell, you have never created any values at all, all I see
from reviewing
your posting on the internet from day zero is destruction from you.

Show us all what you have built in the I.N.S.  - (I can hear crickets
chirpping...).

Thoms.

 
BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 



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From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 7:16:28 AM
Subject: Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root
servers

I'm not the one selling root services here. You and your primary personality
Mr. Palmer are the ones using this forum to sell root services. So I ask you
again the question you have avoided answering - why should we trust you Mr.
Palmer?

regards
joe baptista


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


Oh, so you have better root to use, then - please let us all know the ips of
the servers and we
will look in at it and see how much better. Oh, dont waste your time with
recomending ICANN roots. t
They are leaving out 90 percents of the TLDs

 
BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 



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From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 7:43:10 AM
Subject: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root
servers


Just to repeat my warning. Anyone willing to hand over resolution to
WorldRoot or INAIC (a.k.a. Public-Root) is playing with fire.

Once again John I ask you the questions I asked earlier. Why should we trust
you or Herman and his posse to provide us with DNS service?

Incidentally - who is this Herman chap. Does Herman have a full name :)

John I ask you to remain focused on the discussion. More discussion on the
topic and less advertisements if you don't mind.

cheers
joe baptista 


On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:30 PM, John Palmer
<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


This is what happens when you rely on one root server network. This kind of
thing is bound to happen. 
 
If you were using WorldRoot (http://worldroot.net) or PublicRoot
(http://www.public-root.com), you would
not be having so many problems.
 
My posse and I and Herman and his group of engineers have been providing
alternatives for years,
in spite of Joe's best efforts to destroy our work. 
 
We're still here.
 
Our roots are still available.
 
And we have many more TLDs than ICANN.
 
Try lion-mail.net yet? You should. Works like a charm.
 
Cheers,
John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joe  <mailto:baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Baptista 
To: Hugh Dierker <mailto:hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>  
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Andrew McMeikan <mailto:andrewm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>  ; Rod
Beckstrom <mailto:rod.beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx>  
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] censorship among root servers



On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:



Andy,
 
Is it possible that this censorship and suppression of the people is a good
thing for the rest of us?  



Hugh - we don't yet know what happened. And ICANN has been silent. It could
be anyone behind this. I have seen some supporting evidence claiming it was
the Chinese. But I won't put much reliance on that evidence. The claim is
that a gateway in China did this. We know the Chinese run their own root
independent of ICANN. Maybe this was just an accident and a faulty gateway
leaked the China DNS. It could be anything.