Re: [ga] Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy - show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)

[Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The bad spelling from Thomas Baxter (a.k.a. John Palmer) is intentional.
Some time back Mr. Palmer told us his alternate personality had a very heavy
Slavic accent. So I guess to keep up the pretense the bad spelling is an
attempt at an ASCII version of a Slavic accent.

Now we could stop this nonsense immediately if the GA rules were enforced.
But considering what happened here some time ago in which the rules were
abused by ICANN staff I have very little hope of that. But we can try. Your
welcomed to make a complaint to the Chair if you wish.

kindest regards
joe baptista

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:10 AM, abel wisman <abel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> If you have to send all this nonsense to this maillist, can you please have
> the common decency to use a spell-checker and not use words that you have no
> clue on how to spell to begin with?
>
> Best of course woule be if you refrained from posting any of this rubbish.
>
> ------------------------------
>  *From*: owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> *To*: POST-TO GNSO LIST
> *Sent*: Sat Apr 03 04:53:45 2010
>
> *Subject*: Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy
> - show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with
> John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)
> Joe joe joe
>
> You didnt answer the question that I just posed in my subj line, namely -
> what positive aspects did you ever
> give to the causes of the I.N.S.?
>
> We know you were sued by the police in Canada because you annoyed the local
> govt with your complaints
> that police officers shouldn't be able to stop for meals during their hard
> days of protection for the public good.
>
> The guy from the government, I think he said that your a bit of a kook or
> something like that, so
> the question should be asked loud:
>
> WHY SHOULD ANY PERSON TRUST ANY INFORMATION YOU SAY, JOE INCLUDING YOUR
> PARA NOID RAVINGS
> REGARDING HERMAN XENT?????????????????
>
> The way a lot of persons see the issue re Europe in around 2005 is that you
> did a deliberate sabatage when
> it looked like I.N.S. would actually succeed and you know the whole
> industry died off after your stabbed it
> around the heart.
>
> Sorry crackpott, but very few people think that this is only by accident.
>
> I think (and do do many peoples and companies, including some sovern
> goverments) that you did this
> on purpose to kill the chances of competition for icann are the person that
> does not have much credibles.
>
> I think you are paid from icann. You dont seem to have more visible
> supports and live with street people in
> a po dunk town in Ontaio. You called Karl a welfare bumb once - but what
> are you but even worse because
> at least Karl is an honest religion person with a nice family who tries
> hard.
>
> You, you are just a sell-off and trator.
>
> Sorry that the facts are pain, but there it is and all readers of experince
> know this to be real.
>
> Thoms.
>
> BAX! Names Allentown
> http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
> Computer setup, training, software and services
> Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *To:* Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Cc:* POST-TO GNSO LIST <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> *Sent:* Fri, April 2, 2010 10:23:48 PM
> *Subject:* Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy
> - show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with
> John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)
>
> Dear Mr. John Palmer a.k.a. Thomas Baxter:
>
> I think it's an innovative approach sliming me while you market your
> services - but let's try to remain focused here. Your trying to sell people
> on using your "free" root services. My only question is - why should anyone
> trust you John Palmer or your alternate personality Thomas Baxter to provide
> them with DNS services?
>
> I would trust OpenDNS and even some of the OpenNIC servers for DNS. But I
> would never trust a man like John Palmer who leaves me psychotic messages
> http://bit.ly/5KxboD ???
>
> The provisioning of public DNS services "free" or "pay" is all about trust.
> Would you not agree Mr. Palmer a.k.a. Thomas Baxter. So once again I ask a
> simple question. Why should we trust you?
>
> regards
> joe baptista
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I dont see selling any root services here - the serverces are free to
>> anyone
>> if they want to just change their dns settings in their computer.
>>
>> You can get access to stuff you dont have now like the
>> http://lion-mail.net which offers spam free
>> private e mail and looks like you can win a new apple i pad by June 30
>> too.
>>
>> This is one benefit that the I.N.S. should publisize - because not many
>> people have
>> changed the dns settings, spammers cant get spams to your I.N.S. email
>> addies.
>>
>> But Joe, you are probably paid from icann to sabatage the I.N.S. This is
>> true or
>> you are sychotic, one of the two must be true.  So you shouldnt throw
>> rocks
>> at people who tried to make stuff work, like John and Bradley and Herman
>> Xennt.
>>
>> As much as I can tell, you have never created any values at all, all I see
>> from reviewing
>> your posting on the internet from day zero is destruction from you.
>>
>> Show us all what you have built in the I.N.S.  - (I can hear crickets
>> chirpping...).
>>
>> Thoms.
>>
>> BAX! Names Allentown
>> http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
>> Computer setup, training, software and services
>> Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> *To:* Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>
>> *Cc:* ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> *Sent:* Wed, March 31, 2010 7:16:28 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among
>> root servers
>>
>> I'm not the one selling root services here. You and your primary
>> personality Mr. Palmer are the ones using this forum to sell root services.
>> So I ask you again the question you have avoided answering - why should we
>> trust you Mr. Palmer?
>>
>> regards
>> joe baptista
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, so you have better root to use, then - please let us all know the ips
>>> of the servers and we
>>> will look in at it and see how much better. Oh, dont waste your time with
>>> recomending ICANN roots. t
>>> They are leaving out 90 percents of the TLDs
>>>
>>> BAX! Names Allentown
>>> http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
>>> Computer setup, training, software and services
>>> Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD.
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> *To:* John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>
>>> *Cc:* ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> *Sent:* Mon, March 29, 2010 7:43:10 AM
>>> *Subject:* OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root
>>> servers
>>>
>>> Just to repeat my warning. Anyone willing to hand over resolution to
>>> WorldRoot or INAIC (a.k.a. Public-Root) is playing with fire.
>>>
>>> Once again John I ask you the questions I asked earlier. Why should we
>>> trust you or Herman and his posse to provide us with DNS service?
>>>
>>> Incidentally - who is this Herman chap. Does Herman have a full name :)
>>>
>>> John I ask you to remain focused on the discussion. More discussion on
>>> the topic and less advertisements if you don't mind.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> joe baptista
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:30 PM, John Palmer <
>>> jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  This is what happens when you rely on one root server network. This
>>>> kind of thing is bound to happen.
>>>>
>>>> If you were using WorldRoot (http://worldroot.net) or PublicRoot (
>>>> http://www.public-root.com), you would
>>>> not be having so many problems.
>>>>
>>>> My posse and I and Herman and his group of engineers have been providing
>>>> alternatives for years,
>>>> in spite of Joe's best efforts to destroy our work.
>>>>
>>>> We're still here.
>>>>
>>>> Our roots are still available.
>>>>
>>>> And we have many more TLDs than ICANN.
>>>>
>>>> Try lion-mail.net yet? You should. Works like a charm.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>  *From:* Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *To:* Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Cc:* ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Andrew McMeikan <andrewm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Rod
>>>> Beckstrom <rod.beckstrom@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:41 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [ga] censorship among root servers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Hugh Dierker 
>>>> <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   Andy,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible that this censorship and suppression of the people is a
>>>>> good thing for the rest of us?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hugh - we don't yet know what happened. And ICANN has been silent. It
>>>> could be anyone behind this. I have seen some supporting evidence claiming
>>>> it was the Chinese. But I won't put much reliance on that evidence. The
>>>> claim is that a gateway in China did this. We know the Chinese run their 
>>>> own
>>>> root independent of ICANN. Maybe this was just an accident and a faulty
>>>> gateway leaked the China DNS. It could be anything.
>>>>
>>>>