[ga] Re: THREAD STOP

[Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>]

I like this "thread stop" .  Trouble is that it brings more attention to 
something rather than less. We generally work on the premise that you just take 
the fuel out of a fire by remaining quiet. But Hey we don't judge"

--- On Mon, 4/5/10, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


From: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: THREAD STOP: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy - 
show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John 
Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 7:18 AM





This is getting tiresome. Joe has been told many times that Karl Peters has 
verified that Tom and I are two
different people. Joe continues to create this fiction because it suits his 
purpose, which is, as far as I can
tell, to disrupt communities that are trying to actually create solutions.
 
So, if there are no moderators anymore, let me issue a THREAD STOP.
 
Please.stop.threat.thx.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joe Baptista 
To: abel wisman 
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 8:39 AM
Subject: Re: [ga] Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is 
destroy - show me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment 
with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)

The bad spelling from Thomas Baxter (a.k.a. John Palmer) is intentional. Some 
time back Mr. Palmer told us his alternate personality had a very heavy Slavic 
accent. So I guess to keep up the pretense the bad spelling is an attempt at an 
ASCII version of a Slavic accent.

Now we could stop this nonsense immediately if the GA rules were enforced. But 
considering what happened here some time ago in which the rules were abused by 
ICANN staff I have very little hope of that. But we can try. Your welcomed to 
make a complaint to the Chair if you wish.

kindest regards
joe baptista


On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 5:10 AM, abel wisman <abel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



If you have to send all this nonsense to this maillist, can you please have the 
common decency to use a spell-checker and not use words that you have no clue 
on how to spell to begin with?

Best of course woule be if you refrained from posting any of this rubbish.




From: 
WHY SHOULD ANY PERSON TRUST ANY INFORMATION YOU SAY, JOE INCLUDING YOUR PARA 
NOID RAVINGS
REGARDING HERMAN XENT?????????????????

The way a lot of persons see the issue re Europe in around 2005 is that you did 
a deliberate sabatage when
it looked like I.N.S. would actually succeed and you know the whole industry 
died off after your stabbed it
around the heart.

Sorry crackpott, but very few people think that this is only by accident. 

I think (and do do many peoples and companies, including some sovern 
goverments) that you did this 
on purpose to kill the chances of competition for icann are the person that 
does not have much credibles. 

I think you are paid from icann. You dont seem to have more visible supports 
and live with street people in 
a po dunk town in Ontaio. You called Karl a welfare bumb once - but what are 
you but even worse because
at least Karl is an honest religion person with a nice family who tries hard. 

You, you are just a sell-off and trator. 

Sorry that the facts are pain, but there it is and all readers of experince 
know this to be real.

Thoms.

 BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 






From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: POST-TO GNSO LIST <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Fri, April 2, 2010 10:23:48 PM
Subject: Re: OT: another moment with John Palmer All Joe does is destroy - show 
me his positive aspects in the I.N.S. (was Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer 
Re: [ga] censorship among root servers)

Dear Mr. John Palmer a.k.a. Thomas Baxter:

I think it's an innovative approach sliming me while you market your services - 
but let's try to remain focused here. Your trying to sell people on using your 
"free" root services. My only question is - why should anyone trust you John 
Palmer or your alternate personality Thomas Baxter to provide them with DNS 
services?

I would trust OpenDNS and even some of the OpenNIC servers for DNS. But I would 
never trust a man like John Palmer who leaves me psychotic messages 
http://bit.ly/5KxboD ???

The provisioning of public DNS services "free" or "pay" is all about trust. 
Would you not agree Mr. Palmer a.k.a. Thomas Baxter. So once again I ask a 
simple question. Why should we trust you?

regards
joe baptista


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



I dont see selling any root services here - the serverces are free to anyone 
if they want to just change their dns settings in their computer.

You can get access to stuff you dont have now like the http://lion-mail.net 
which offers spam free
private e mail and looks like you can win a new apple i pad by June 30 too. 

This is one benefit that the I.N.S. should publisize - because not many people 
have
changed the dns settings, spammers cant get spams to your I.N.S. email addies. 

But Joe, you are probably paid from icann to sabatage the I.N.S. This is true or
you are sychotic, one of the two must be true.  So you shouldnt throw rocks
at people who tried to make stuff work, like John and Bradley and Herman Xennt. 

As much as I can tell, you have never created any values at all, all I see from 
reviewing
your posting on the internet from day zero is destruction from you.

Show us all what you have built in the I.N.S.  - (I can hear crickets 
chirpping...).

Thoms.

 BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 






From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 7:16:28 AM
Subject: Re: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root 
servers

I'm not the one selling root services here. You and your primary personality 
Mr. Palmer are the ones using this forum to sell root services. So I ask you 
again the question you have avoided answering - why should we trust you Mr. 
Palmer?

regards
joe baptista


On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 2:15 AM, Thomas Baxter <baxtertms@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Oh, so you have better root to use, then - please let us all know the ips of 
the servers and we
will look in at it and see how much better. Oh, dont waste your time with 
recomending ICANN roots. t
They are leaving out 90 percents of the TLDs

 BAX! Names Allentown
http://www.bax-names-allentown.com
Computer setup, training, software and services
Coming soon: BAX-Mail - free web email under the BAX TLD. 






From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Mon, March 29, 2010 7:43:10 AM
Subject: OT - a moment with John Palmer Re: [ga] censorship among root servers




Just to repeat my warning. Anyone willing to hand over resolution to WorldRoot 
or INAIC (a.k.a. Public-Root) is playing with fire.

Once again John I ask you the questions I asked earlier. Why should we trust 
you or Herman and his posse to provide us with DNS service?

Incidentally - who is this Herman chap. Does Herman have a full name :)

John I ask you to remain focused on the discussion. More discussion on the 
topic and less advertisements if you don't mind.

cheers
joe baptista 


On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:30 PM, John Palmer <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:



This is what happens when you rely on one root server network. This kind of 
thing is bound to happen. 
 
If you were using WorldRoot (http://worldroot.net) or PublicRoot 
(http://www.public-root.com), you would
not be having so many problems.
 
My posse and I and Herman and his group of engineers have been providing 
alternatives for years,
in spite of Joe's best efforts to destroy our work. 
 
We're still here.
 
Our roots are still available.
 
And we have many more TLDs than ICANN.
 
Try lion-mail.net yet? You should. Works like a charm.
 
Cheers,
John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: Joe Baptista 

To: Hugh Dierker 
Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Andrew McMeikan ; Rod Beckstrom 
Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: [ga] censorship among root servers




On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:






Andy,
 
Is it possible that this censorship and suppression of the people is a good 
thing for the rest of us?  


Hugh - we don't yet know what happened. And ICANN has been silent. It could be 
anyone behind this. I have seen some supporting evidence claiming it was the 
Chinese. But I won't put much reliance on that evidence. The claim is that a 
gateway in China did this. We know the Chinese run their own root independent 
of ICANN. Maybe this was just an accident and a faulty gateway leaked the China 
DNS. It could be anything.