Re: [ga] I challenge John Palmer to a dual ..

["John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Almost everything that Joe has stated below is either a flat out lie or
has not been born out by proof after much trying. If people were  involved
in scams, the police would arrest them. Do you think that the police would
just let people run scams like Joe is claiming? Of course not.

No one has been arrested becase, suprise, suprise, no one has committed
any offenses. 

The truth is that Joe got into an argument with the guys in Europe  in 2005
and decided to destroy their efforts when they wouldn't let him run the show.

Plain and simple. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Baptista 
  To: Hugh Dierker 
  Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> GA ; Eric MacIver ; Eric MacIver 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 11:00 AM
  Subject: Re: [ga] I challenge John Palmer to a dual ..


  First I want to remind everyone I did not start this discussion. The credit 
there goes to the tag team of Palmer and Baxter.


  On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 9:29 AM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

          Joe, I wonder.  Who is following these folks? 


  No one is following them anymore. The TLDA is a prime example of the complete 
lack of interest in the Xennt Palmer posse scam. At one time we had 40 members 
including some ccTLDs. Today the only members left in the TLDA are the people 
still involved in the scam. Including the president Gene Marsh - who is not 
listed as a member.

  http://bit.ly/9bLebB

  Everyone else has jumped ship.
   
            Who is giving them money? 


  I think they have a few TLD renewals from time to time. But because of my 
actions in warning defrauded TLD holders in the scam the revenue stream has 
dried up. At one time they were making about 100,000 - 300,000 USD per month. 
Today they are lucky if they see $1,000 / month. n they have left to hurt is 
the messenger - i.e. me. And as we can see they do their best.
   

          Is there a reason we should care about this?
         


  The only concern I would have is with respect to the security of their public 
DNS users.

  There is no other reason to concern ourselves with them. They have been 
broken thanks to me and i don't expect them to rise again. Except for the 
occasional malcontent comment from Palmer or his clone Baxter.

  However. If we set aside the fraud there is one positive aspect of all this 
which we should concern ourselves with. The project itself was very successful 
and proved how easy it is to replace ICANN. That need to replace ICANN is just 
as great today as it was back in 2005.

  regards
  joe baptista
   


          --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


            From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            Subject: [ga] I challenge John Palmer to a dual ..
            To: "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> GA" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Eric MacIver" 
<maciver@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Eric MacIver" <ericmaciver@xxxxxxxxx>
            Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:12 AM




            This is an open challenge to John Palmer (a.k.a. Thomas Baxter) or 
both to join me on Baptista Talk Radio. Let's agree to have it out once and for 
all - face to face - man to man. Do you have the baln they have left to hurt is 
the messenger - i.e. me. And as we can see they do their best.
   

          Is there a reason we should care about this?
         


  The only concern I would have is with respect to the security of their public 
DNS users.

  There is no other reason to concern ourselves with them. They have been 
broken thanks to me and i don't expect them to rise again. Except for the 
occasional malcontent comment from Palmer or his clone Baxter.

  However. If we set aside the fraud there is one positive aspect of all this 
which we should concern ourselves with. The project itself was very successful 
and proved how easy it is to replace ICANN. That need to replace ICANN is just 
as great today as it was back in 2005.

  regards
  joe baptista
   


          --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


            From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
            Subject: [ga] I challenge John Palmer to a dual ..
            To: "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> GA" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Eric MacIver" 
<maciver@xxxxxxxxxxx>, "Eric MacIver" <ericmaciver@xxxxxxxxx>
            Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 10:12 AM




            This is an open challenge to John Palmer (a.k.a. Thomas Baxter) or 
both to join me on Baptista Talk Radio. Let's agree to have it out once and for 
all - face to face - man to man. Do you have the balls for that? I think you 
might.

            My only participation in it will be to review the facts with you. 
Establish your credentials and credibility. And then deal with the issues 
involved in the fraud you participated in.

            You a very important person in the con that was perpetuated against 
hundreds of TLD holders in INAIC - NewRoot - PublicRoot etc. You are also a 
director of the TLDA (a joke - but still it's an obligation to the community). 
This fraud was not only perpetuated against hundreds of TLD holders worldwide 
that you provide root service too - but also against a TLDA director and member 
- Eric MacIver. I've sent him a copy of this. 

            John I don't think your a crook - I think your just a misguided 
fool. You are protecting a man - i.e. Herman Xennt - who managed to get a 
student in Germany to commit fraud against his school - http://bit.ly/7It7ej - 
and your asking us to trust you with our root service? Root is all about trust.

            Anyway the challenge stands. It will be recorded for prime time 
clicking. Just let me know whens convenient. I hope you have the balls for this 
- or else I'm going to be terribly disappointed in you.

            regards 
            joe baptista

            p.s. hope you had a nice easter .. don't lay an egg.