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Re: [ga] censorship among root servers

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] censorship among root servers
  • From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 20:11:48 -0430

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Andy,
>
> Is it possible that this censorship and suppression of the people is a good
> thing for the rest of us?
>

Hugh - we don't yet know what happened. And ICANN has been silent. It could
be anyone behind this. I have seen some supporting evidence claiming it was
the Chinese. But I won't put much reliance on that evidence. The claim is
that a gateway in China did this. We know the Chinese run their own root
independent of ICANN. Maybe this was just an accident and a faulty gateway
leaked the China DNS. It could be anything.

We should not jump to conclusions. Once again I ask Rod Beckstrom to answer
the question. What happened? Until we get an answer the speculation will
continue and that is neither helpful nor responsible.

We must have answers. The root system the world relies on for resolution was
hijack. Rod what happened. How many more days must we wait for an answer?

This delay does not inspire our confidence.

regards
joe baptista




>
> --- On *Fri, 3/26/10, Andrew McMeikan <andrewm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Andrew McMeikan <andrewm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ga] censorship among root servers
> To: "ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Friday, March 26, 2010, 7:17 AM
>
>
>
> I was reading
> https://lists.dns-oarc.net/pipermail/dns-operations/2010-March/005267.html
>
> which suggests that some of China's censorship is leaking but would
> seem mostly confined (i.e. not leaking to Japan)
>
> Is this the start to the end of DNS?  Implementing censorship occurs
> more aggressively as western countries embrace what was previously
> frowned on as totalitarian giving countries that already embrace
> censorship a justifiable position in more extreme censorship.
>
> If root nodes are compromised to the point that they redirect
> queries to false sites then any trust in DNS is lost.
>
> I call on everyone here to support a declaration that:
> "No censorship can be tolerated within the root servers."
> and that this supported declaration be forwarded to the ICANN board
> that they may press China to chose another way to achieve their
> internal polices than polluting a global shared resource.
>
> I trust that this is such a minimalist statement that it can receive
> unanimous support within the general assembly.  My personal views on
> censorship would like to make a much broader statement but without
> this minimal simplistic position for root server trust, I feel that
> there can be no functioning name system.
>
>
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
>
> Andrew McMeikan
>
>
>


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