Re: [ga] censorship among root servers

["John Palmer" <jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Joe, Joe, Joe, where should I start with this one:

This from a man who would deny brave law enforcement officers the right to 
proper nutrition:

http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/bryans-list/1995-October/000666.html

You know what I mean regarding Herman and PCCF. He is (or was unless he sold
the shares) an owner of shares in PCCF which give him the right to use 2 IP 
blocks.

Don't play dumb with us, Joe. Also, why dont you post the links of the voice 
mails
you sent to others which are equally amusing.

Cheers,
John 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Baptista 
  To: John Palmer 
  Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 7:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [ga] censorship among root servers





  On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:23 PM, John Palmer 
<jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

    >  ----- Original Message ----- 
    >  From: Joe Baptista 
    >  To: Andrew McMeikan 
    >  Cc: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ; Rod Beckstrom ; Rod Beckstrom 
    >  Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:18 AM
    >  Subject: Re: [ga] censorship among root servers
    >
    >
    >  I was wondering how long this would take to make the rounds. This is a 
serious issue. See RFC 2826 http://bit.ly/drkKN8
    >
    >
      ...

    >  Folks - please remember the servers may have been hijacked. ICANN and 
China may not have been involved. It's easy to hijack IP numbers. I know some 
people over in Amsterdam who hijack IP. It's happened to me.

    No it didn't Joe - Herman owns those shares outright. He has every right to 
use them.

  Who's Herman? And what does he have to do with it. You able to explain that 
to me. And please - stop calling me on the phone and leaving those awful nasty 
messages - http://bit.ly/5KxboD - understandably I have a =
ld I start with this 
one:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This from a man who would deny brave law 
enforcement officers the right to </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>proper nutrition:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/bryans-list/1995-October/000666.html";>http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/bryans-list/1995-October/000666.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You know what I mean regarding Herman and PCCF. He 
is (or was unless he sold</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the shares) an owner of shares in PCCF which give 
him the right to use 2 IP blocks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don't play dumb with us, Joe. Also, why dont you 
post the links of the voice mails</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>you sent to others which are equally 
amusing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John </FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: 
#000000 2pld I start with this 
one:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This from a man who would deny brave law 
enforcement officers the right to </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>proper nutrition:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><A 
href="http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/bryans-list/1995-October/000666.html";>http://lists.samurai.com/pipermail/bryans-list/1995-October/000666.html</A></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You know what I mean regarding Herman and PCCF. He 
is (or was unless he sold</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the shares) an owner of shares in PCCF which give 
him the right to use 2 IP blocks.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Don't play dumb with us, Joe. Also, why dont you 
post the links of the voice mails</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>you sent to others which are equally 
amusing.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>John </FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx href="mailto:baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>Joe 
  Baptista</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
  title=jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>John Palmer</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 26, 2010 7:51 
PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [ga] censorship among root 
  servers</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><BR><BR>
  <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 6:23 PM, John Palmer <SPAN 
  dir=ltr>&lt;<A 
  
href="mailto:jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>jpalmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;</SPAN>
 
  wrote:<BR>
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    <DIV class=im>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt;&nbsp; ----- Original Message ----- 
    <BR>&gt;&nbsp; From: Joe Baptista <BR>&gt;&nbsp; To: Andrew McMeikan 
    <BR>&gt;&nbsp; Cc: <A href="mailto:ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
    target=_blank>ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A> ; Rod Beckstrom ; Rod Beckstrom 
    <BR>&gt;&nbsp; Sent: Friday, March 26, 2010 11:18 AM<BR>&gt;&nbsp; Subject: 
    Re: [ga] censorship among root servers</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>&gt;</FONT></DIV></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
    <DIV class=im>
    <DIV>&gt;<BR>&gt; &nbsp;I was wondering how long this would take to make 
the 
    rounds. This is a serious issue. See RFC 2826 <A 
href="http://bit.ly/drkKN8"; 
    target=_blank>http://bit.ly/drkKN8</A></DIV>
    <DIV>&gt;</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>&gt;<BR>&nbsp; ...</DIV>
    <DIV class=im>
    <DIV><BR>&gt;&nbsp; Folks - please remember the servers may have been 
    hijacked. ICANN and China may not have been involved. It's easy to hijack 
IP 
    numbers. I know some people over in Amsterdam who hijack IP. It's happened 
    to me.</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV>No it didn't Joe - Herman owns those shares outright. He has every 
    right to use them.</DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR>Who's Herman? And what does he have to do with it. You able to 
  explain that to me. And please - stop calling me on the phone and leaving 
  those awful nasty messages - <A 
  href="http://bit.ly/5KxboD";>http://bit.ly/5KxboD</A> - understandably I have 
a 
  hard time taking your seriously. And while I have your attention - pay your 
  bills Mr. Director :)<BR>&nbsp;<BR></DIV>
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    <DIV class=im>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>&gt;&nbsp; And I hate to rub everyones nose in it - but if this in 
fact 
    did happen and facebook users were redirected - then it proves my point. To 
    be secure one should operate their own root servers. </DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
    <DIV><BR>Or use WorldRoot - <A href="http://worldroot.net"; 
    target=_blank>http://worldroot.net</A>.</DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
  <DIV><BR><BR>Yes - of course - let's continue the TLDA - Public-Root - INAIC 
- 
  Unifiedroot fraud one more time. The one thing the i root has taught us is 
  that DNS security is critical. So why should I trust you - <A 
  href="http://bit.ly/5KxboD";>http://bit.ly/5KxboD</A> - you leave very 
immature 
  messages on answering systems. Is this the sort of person I or anyone else 
  would trust with our DNS?<BR><BR>John - go back to the TLDA. Start over with 
  root. Someday you may get it right ;) Security is always dependent on the 
  integrity of the people behind the service. So why should we trust 
  you?<BR><BR>regards<BR>joe 
baptista<BR></DIV></DIV><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>