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Re: [ga] ICANN and censorship (and ombudsman ineffectiveness)

  • To: George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] ICANN and censorship (and ombudsman ineffectiveness)
  • From: Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:59:56 -0400

I just sent the ombudsman a message on this


The people here who have warned you about privacy are quite right. Based on
the quotes you provided I was quickly able to determine the offender is
Robin Gross on the ALAC list.

Robin Gross is now in a position to sue you guys for liable and slander.

Your ignorance of the Internet is apparent may not be appreciated – but it
is in keeping with the highest standards – or lack thereof – at ICANN.

Comment by Joe Baptista — September 25, 2009 @ 4:56

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 6:17 AM, George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> Just to followup on my prior post which referenced the very serious breach
> by the Ombudsman of confidentiality (let alone raising free speech
> questions)
> > https://omblog.icann.org/?p=192
> I note my most recent attempt to comment on the blog has been censored (or
> put into a "moderation" queue, to presumably be examined by the thought
> police to determine whether it's "acceptable to them"). I called for an
> audit of the Ombudsman, especially in light of the fact that in *5* years,
> the number of complaints that he's actually resolved is miniscule, barely
> registering on the graph.
> Here's my uncensored comment:
> --- uncensored comment begins ----------
> Kieren: People have the right to be “aggressively critical” whenever they
> see something wrong happening. It’s people who are wrongdoers that benefit
> by attempting to stifle that critical speech. Perhaps one day you’ll have
> greater sophistication and be able to appreciate why free honest and
> truthful speech is valued in our society, far above “false civility.” Kent
> Crispin of ICANN appears to have that sophistication. Yesterday he wrote:
> http://gnso.icann.org/mailing-lists/archives/ga-200709/msg03235.html
> “They undermine and demean the extremely valuable contributions of serious
> longtime ICANN critics like Danny Younger, George Kirikos, and others. (Just
> for the record — I really respect the contributions of these critics, and
> sometimes I agree with them. I believe that sentiment is shared by many
> people on the ICANN staff.)”
> I am sure those “others” would include Robin, Avri, and Milton.
> As for Frank, there’s been a serious breach of confidentiality of a
> complaint here. There was no reason for this blog post at all, and certainly
> not the examples that he used coming directly from someone’s formal
> complaint. That’s inexcusable.
> Yesterday the Ombudsman released his annual report. Page 18 of it had a
> graph at the bottom right, see:
> http://www.icann.org/ombudsman/documents/annual-report-2009-24sep09-en.pdf
> In 5 years, the number of complaints marked “resolved” barely registers on
> the graph. Eyeballing it, it seems to be under 30. This contrasts with over
> 1500 where the Ombudsman declined to get involved. That says it all about
> his lack of effectiveness, and lack of true independence from ICANN. While
> the Ombudsman claims “neutrality”, he does know that his paycheque comes
> from ICANN. If he were to be truly critical of ICANN in his findings (e.g.
> look at comment #16 and read the Ombudsman File 09-29 and see how
> unsatisfactorily that was handled), he might find his continued employment
> at risk. An independent audit should be done to determine the effectiveness
> of the Ombudsman, as part of the audit of ICANN that others like CADNA have
> called for recently.
> --- uncensored comment ends ----------
> Sincerely,
> George Kirikos
> http://www.leap.com/

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