Re: [ga] George is being used. It's time to close down this list.

[Joe Baptista <baptista@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Danny. If you put as much effort into the organizing the GA as you did the
constituency this problem would be solved once and for all. We both know
ALAC is a pending bureaucratic disaster.

The GA is the only place left where all the clowns can hold all parties
accountable at the GNSO. We are the official opposition. We are the reality
of what all this ALAC and domain constituency is all about. Power to the
people. This is the last place at ICANN where ordinary people can hold the
ICANN clowns accountable for this mess. Failure to represent the Internet
user.

If George has been bought - then good for him. I hope the cookie is worth
it. Debbie got her cookie for making this place a laughable disaster.

anyway ... that my two cents.

cheers
joe baptista

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 8:11 PM, Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> Danny,
>
> How quickly you forget.  It was under your chairmanship that all privileges
> were taken from the GA. Your last at MDR had no GA meeting. That was the
> first time in ICANN history that, that ocurred.
>
> I have asked you to steer or chair different working groups here and you
> have refused.  Now you are suggesting ALAC is a better forum?
>
> I am all ears.  As Kent says, you are a great contributor. Where did this
> come from?
>
> --- On *Thu, 9/24/09, Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Debbie Garside <debbie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [ga] George was right. It's time to close down this list.
> To: "'Danny Younger'" <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>, "'Ga'" <ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:11 PM
>
>
> Well said Danny!
>
> I asked a similar question some time ago when I first ventured into this
> forum.
>
> At that time, I seem to remember, I likened it to a forum for "hitting
> ICANN
> with a big stick" because I couldn't see what the objectives were from the
> posts.
>
> Not much has changed over time.
>
> Best regards
>
> Debbie
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: 
> > owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > [mailto:owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<http://us.mc529.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=owner-ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]
> On Behalf Of Danny Younger
> > Sent: 24 September 2009 18:35
> > To: GA
> > Subject: [ga] George was right. It's time to close down this list.
> >
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Over the last few years I have watched the steady decline of
> > this list.  It used to be a discussion list known for robust
> > discussions that served a purpose.
> >
> > Allow me to remind you why this list was created:
> >
> > "The GA shall be an open forum for participation in the work
> > of the DNSO, and open to all who are willing to contribute
> > effort to the work of the DNSO. The participants in the GA
> > should be individuals who have a knowledge of and an interest
> > in issues pertaining to the areas for which the DNSO has
> > primary responsibility, and who are willing to contribute
> > time, effort and expertise to the work of the DNSO, including
> > work item proposal and development, discussion of work items,
> > draft document preparation, and participation in research and
> > drafting committees and working groups."
> >
> > Now ask yourself:  Where are the draft documents?  Where is
> > there any work item proposal or development?   Where is there
> > any research or drafting effort?  Where is the added value
> > that this list was designed to offer?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Joe Baptista

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